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[–] valk2 [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It is on actually. I don't make spelling mistakes often. Actually, I don't think I have made any thus far on here. Spellchecker is incorporated in my browser and the extension, Grammarly, spell checks as well. So nice try man.

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[–] ShinyVoater 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Comma splice. You should use a period or semicolon before "usually".

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[–] valk2 [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I strive to as well, but I don't always succeed. PMing someone is the right solution. Don't sit there and call someone out in the thread. There are some common mistakes that I will continue to make no matter what I do. Example, "couldn't care less" and "could care less". I will never get it right and I don't really care. The only people that hang up on this and can't INFER what I mean are the ones who are keyboard crusaders that correct every grammar issues they see.

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[–] valk2 [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Username relevant. Have an upvoat.

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[–] Nurdoidz 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

There are a few things I’d like to address:

If I’m understanding correctly, this post is directed at those who aggressively correct spelling and grammar out of malice? I don’t think it’s a secret that that type of thing is severely frowned upon in most online communities and is why the stigma of a ‘grammar nazi’ is almost always attached to it.

However, I’d say that there may be some misinterpretation on your part. How exactly do you distinguish between someone who does it to help out or out of malice? As you have said, this is an anonymous forum, which means you don’t know who is on the other side of the screen. I’ve experience both first- and third-hand that some foreign users were corrected and they appreciated it. I’ve also experienced when someone takes it as an act of aggression, even when that’s not true.

I think the fundamental disagreement I have with this post is this sentence:

I make this post so that people will have a little more understanding and quit making it a keyboard crusade to correct spelling, punctuation, and grammar issues. It doesn't really help anyone besides your own ego.

I have to ask, how is it a gain of understanding to stop correcting grammar and spelling because some people are offended by it? It’s a lot like the saying: “Offense is taken, not given.” While that statement is not entirely true, I think the principle applies here. Why should regular people who correct grammar/spelling seldom stop just because some people take issue with it? I think the benefit of potentially helping someone with English outweighs the issue some people take with being corrected. On one hand, you are helping someone without a clear understanding of English and, on the other hand, you are unintentionally making someone angry just because they find a correction on the Internet annoying.

I am perhaps one of these people who you think attack you with corrections occasionally, however, the reason I will not stop is because I could potentially help someone I don’t know on the Internet with a small chance of someone taking it the wrong way instead of moving on. Instead of assuming people with spelling mistakes are like you who just don’t care, I’d rather rely on the assumption that perhaps they don’t know better. If I knew more about the person, this assumption will naturally fade away.

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[–] valk2 [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Thank you for the long response first of all.

This wasn't direct at anyone specifically.

What you perceive as being help to a random stranger isn't going to be as helpful as you might think. Note everyone speaks / writes / reads English as their native language. While yes, it might help them to better understand the language but who is to say that the assistance your giving is correct? What are your credentials? I mean no one knows. I wouldn't trust the corrections of an online random stranger. I had someone correct me on a post not too long ago and they were actually wrong in their corrections. Grammar does change over time. While some rules have been the same for ages, that doesn't mean they are always going to remain the same.

This is an online forum. Anonymous posts by people who will likely never meet. Correcting issues you see in posts isn't going to help me personally. ]

In regards to: I have to ask, how is it a gain of understanding to stop correcting grammar and spelling because some people are offended by it? It’s a lot like the saying: “Offense is taken, not given.”

If you can read between the lines and understand what I am saying then you shouldn't have to correct me. If you want to send me a PM and notify me that I spelled something wrong or I used the incorrect form of grammar I welcome that entirely. Don't sit there and make a comment below mine only to try to gain fake internet points because you found an error in my message. I equate that to not seeing the forest for the trees.

What you perceive as helping people might not be helping, and you might be incorrect as well. It happens. We are not all right all the time.

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[–] Nurdoidz 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

While yes, it might help them to better understand the language but who is to say that the assistance your giving is correct?

The more objective a correction, the more likely I will issue it. An example of a likely correction: the misspellings ‘easly’ (correction: ‘easily’) and ‘ect.’ (correction: ‘etc.’, which is short for et cetera). An example of an unlikely correction: “Put an apple in the veggie slicer(,) then pull the lever.” (the lack of a comma could be a stylistic choice). The more likely I am wrong or the less the correction is objective, the less likely I will correct.

I wouldn't trust the corrections of an online random stranger.

I think there is no disagreement between us on this, but I always welcome corrections so I can do my own research in case the correction is valid.

Correcting issues you see in posts isn't going to help me personally.

While it may be mistake commenting on a post with you yourself as a focus, I am talking in general. Since you do not represent everyone on the receiving side of my corrections, I cannot change my habits due to one instance. I have a good standing that more people I correct appreciate it than those who take it unwanted. It may be luck or my method of deduction that gives me good results, or a combination of both.

If you can read between the lines and understand what I am saying then you shouldn't have to correct me. If you want to send me a PM and notify me that I spelled something wrong or I used the incorrect form of grammar I welcome that entirely. Don't sit there and make a comment below mine only to try to gain fake internet points because you found an error in my message. I equate that to not seeing the forest for the trees.

But, this was my point: the assumption that a correction is valid fades away the more information I have on someone. The perspective I’m trying to push here is that some of the people that have corrected you may not have had much to go on when reading your input. I’ve had success relying on this assumption and its natural disappearance based on deducted and learned information about someone.

For instance, the likelihood of me correcting you in this thread, assuming that the original post doesn’t exist, is incredibly unlikely, for a number of reasons:

  1. You likely have made no mistakes.
  2. Mistakes I may see in your post aren’t strong enough or objective enough to correct.
  3. Other (time, lack of caring, etc.).

Secondly, I strongly disagree with your second point of PMing. To some, it may be an insecurity and prefer to be corrected non-publicly, but I’d argue that the second option of publicly correcting is better for the following reasons. Not only does it correct the original poster, but:

  • it could correct others who read and are unaware.
  • it is under public scrutiny; a correction can be corrected if it is public.

Why is it bad to do it publicly? I do not understand. Is it because it demoralizes someone? Or that the corrector benefits from it somehow? Again, we both agree that there are assholes who need to be shamed, but I’m arguing for normal people who have no ulterior motives than to help someone.

What you perceive as helping people might not be helping, and you might be incorrect as well. It happens. We are not all right all the time.

This may be true, which is why I think putting my correction under public criticism is important; I could be corrected instead. A PM to the OP may be incorrect and I’ll never know.