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[–] VillaLopez 22 points 21 points (+43|-22) ago 

Who cares, both religions are a plague on the this earth's population. No matter how moderate they are, they are still the foundation of evil and ignorance.

And when they are not moderate...

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[–] Tor1 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

No Semitic religion should be forced on those that don't consent. That's where evil, oppression, and religious enslavement begins.

If they were both like astrology or palm reading, and didn't force themselves on other people who want nothing to do with them, there wouldn't be an issue.

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[–] PIcasso54 24 points 10 points (+34|-24) ago  (edited ago)

Fuck you for comparing Christianity to Islam. If we're comparing Ideologies lets remember that Joseph Stalin was an atheist who killed 50,000,000 civilians outside of wartime casualties.

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[–] YourGFIsTight 3 points 25 points (+28|-3) ago 

*he was a Communist dictator. Atheism has absolutely no doctrines or dogmas, it is simply disbelief in a God.

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[–] Tor1 3 points 23 points (+26|-3) ago  (edited ago)

Stalin's father was a priest. He was devout Greek Orthodox. He's named after saint Joseph. When Stalin was sixteen, he received a scholarship to attend the Tiflis Spiritual Seminary, the leading Russian Orthodox seminary in the region. The language of instruction was Russian. He received training as a priest for five years..

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[–] Uncle_Tractor [S] 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

Atheism is not an ideology. Stalin killed because he was a communist.

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[–] LlamaMan 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Hahaha Stalin grew up in an extremely religious family but good try. Just because the guy was bat shit nuts doesn't mean he did it in the name of atheism like you religious nutbags.

All religions are fucking ignorant and stupid as fuck, there is no true difference between Scientology, Christianity and Islam. You all believe in a mythological book written by fictional writers in an age where the wheel was an impressive thing. There is no fairy in the sky watching over you, get your fucking head out of your ass and use that brain in your skull for once.

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[–] Uncle_Tractor [S] 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

No, all religions are a plague, even the ones that have not been used to justify atrocities. That also goes for ideologies with infallible leaders (communism, nazism) or tenets that can't be questioned (feminism, zionism).

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[–] VillaLopez 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

I was debating that, but I always think of Buddhism or something and feel bad saying they are all evil. Almost is a better term, thank you sir.

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[–] razzz 10 points -2 points (+8|-10) ago 

This is not validated or backed up by history, but I'm sure it sounded super cool and edgy when you were typing it out.

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[–] VillaLopez 4 points 2 points (+6|-4) ago 

Here folks is a perfect example of ignorance.

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[–] Vhaine 8 points 12 points (+20|-8) ago  (edited ago)

There's no christian equivalent of 'holy war.' No 69 virgins or wtf ever. We've got no one telling us to rape for our gods. No sex slaves or beheading. No slavery for the non-believers. The closet Christians get is people who are brutally executed for peacefully exercising their faith and most of that went down a thousand years ago. We no longer live under the old testament laws. That's part of the reason we're Christian and not Jewish.

When there's a 'christian' church yelling at people to go murder in the name of Christ, then we'll talk...loudly. Look how marginalized Westboro is. Until entire countries, sects, and international political organization stop declaring 'holy war' in the name of Islam you really need to keep quiet and look to your own house first. Islam is rotten to the core. It's just as bad if not worse as Christianity under Catholicism during the darkest days. Hear that Islam? You're making the Inquisition look good here. Time for a break.

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[–] 3431033? 12 points 9 points (+21|-12) ago 

There's no christian equivalent of 'holy war.'

The Crusades in the Middle East, Iberia, Africa and the whole Baltic region beg to differ.

No 69 virgins or wtf ever.

Forgiveness of mortal sin for someone who had already died, however, was possible by going on Crusade. Meaning for the uneducated masses of Europe at the time it was the way you got Grandma out of Hell because she wasn't able to walk at the end of her life to give confession.

We've got no one telling us to rape for our gods. No sex slaves or beheading. No slavery for the non-believers.

"As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you." - Deuteronomy 20:10-14

Islam is nothing unique among Abrahamic religions, it's just about six hundred years behind the times and without having ever had the Renaissance and Enlightenment to curb the powers of the clergy. But to pretend it's somehow different than any other system of bronze age myths to come from the Middle East is incorrect.

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[–] Draegur 7 points 6 points (+13|-7) ago 

This.

Abraham's god is a murder god of brutality and blood sacrifice, and everything even remotely good about moden abrahamic faiths today comes from corrupting and degrading the original text. Whether one worships Jesus, follows Mohammad, or stuck to the original Hebrew traditions, one is still part of a death-obsessed apocalypse cult at the heart of it.

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[–] 51rH0n3y84d93r 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Forgiveness of mortal sin for someone who had already died, however, was possible by going on Crusade. Meaning for the uneducated masses of Europe at the time it was the way you got Grandma out of Hell because she wasn't able to walk at the end of her life to give confession.

But notice this is not substantiated in either the old or new testament. Not all Christians are the Catholics of old. In fact, Catholicism did an excellent job of slaughtering the anabaptists, and arguably incorporating a lot of paganism.

My understanding of Deuteronomy is that this was a unique instance of GOD claiming the holy land for a specific time and purpose, not a general rule to follow. I don't spend much time on researching the old testament, so I can't really provide much further insight there.

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[–] Medwin 5 points 2 points (+7|-5) ago 

Exactly. This comparison is bullshit. There isn't any Christian equivalent of what the Muslims are doing.

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[–] NeedMoarGuitars 4 points 10 points (+14|-4) ago 

She does make a very good point with the following statement:

“I just want to know why I have to get down on bended knee and ask for forgiveness from the entire western world,” Kaber told our reporter, “every time some asshole who has twisted my religion up commits an act of violence, but whenever some delusional, white, gun toting religious fundamentalist shoots up a Planned Parenthood or a black church in South Carolina, it’s immediately labeled the act of a lone wolf or someone clearly not indicative of Christianity as a whole?”

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[–] indiglo_girls 2 points 9 points (+11|-2) ago 

When do Christians celebrate these acts en masse?? As an atheist myself, I find these comparisons to be very spurious.

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[–] Sosacms 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Pretty sure it's Christians condemning these actions every time. The entire country gets pissed off and demanding justice when they happen. So ya, they aren't celebrating and they've already denounced the actions in great numbers and constantly pushing for legal changes to prevent them.

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[–] pandabill 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago 

Maybe the difference is that one of these things happens once a year and the other happens 10 times every day somewhere in the world? Fucking apologists, I hope you all get torn to pieces by a Mudslime wannabe virgin rapist.

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[–] dismalinterest 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

Nutso Christians tend to get that way because they belong to an insular clique. Lets also no forget that compared to islamic terror christian terrorists are exceedingly hard to find.

Islamic terror is not unconnected however to the rest of islamic society. Martyrs are praised by millions, their names and images are shared around the world. This is what makes martyring themselves so attractive.

Why else would so many educated, affluent muslims go on to kill themselves and many others?

Why is there no end to the people who do this even though many of them are obviously smart? It is because the whole of islamic society incentivizes and worships this behaviour.

This is why you saw Indonesians in Iraq and Chechens in Syria. The draw for these people is fame and the prayers of millions of their fellow muslims.

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[–] ArchangelleShe 2 points 10 points (+12|-2) ago 

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[–] A_jihad_on_anchovies 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

That's disgusting.

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[–] wilwilwesly 9 points 5 points (+14|-9) ago  (edited ago)

"Moderate" Christians believe that one day Jesus will return and kill most of humanity. "Moderate" Muslims believe that the desert warlord pedophile Muhammed was the greatest man of all time. Moderately religious is a bit of an oxymoron

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[–] josemon 3 points 7 points (+10|-3) ago 

Ah the hypocrisy. Killing is like the worse sin, but if Jesus does it then it's ok. The extreme Christians are just as ok with making those outside their faith suffer, for all eternity preferably, than Muslims. The difference is that they expect God to do the dirty work, the Muslims do the dirty work themselves.

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[–] wilwilwesly 2 points 5 points (+7|-2) ago 

mhm "So Joshua smote all the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded. Joshua 10:40"

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[–] Chiefpacman 6 points 3 points (+9|-6) ago  (edited ago)

Without trying to argue with you about anything- you should know that no where in Christian teachings does it say Jesus will come back and kill everyone.

The apocalypse, according to Revelations, is brought on by man. It is said we will combine ourselves under one flag and grant the antichrist power. It would be a great battle between heaven and hell- on Earth.

While Jesus would save those worthy ones, and not save the damned. Everyone would still effectively be dead, but not exactly a Jesus slaying everyone.

edit: this isn't a down vote if your atheist comment. Religion aside, I'm just saying that nowhere in the Bible does it say, what he says it does. It really doesn't.

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[–] wilwilwesly 3 points 3 points (+6|-3) ago  (edited ago)

"the rapture refers to the belief that either before, or simultaneously with, the Second Coming of Jesus Christ to earth, believers who have died will be raised and believers who are still alive and remain shall be caught up together with them (the resurrected dead believers) in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air" what happens to those who don't go up into the sky with Jesus?

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[–] Iforgotmy_other_acct 6 points 0 points (+6|-6) ago 

You're wasting your time. Folks like this one are too busy feeling edgy to go out and read.

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[–] indiglo_girls 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago  (edited ago)

I am an atheist and what you've said is incredibly disingenuous. Don't act like you understand the Bible because you don't. (Speaking to wilwilwesly.)

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[–] pandabill 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

No, the difference is moderate Muslims will not crush your skull after beheading you for saying Islam is a violent death cult.

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[–] Spear1000 3 points 3 points (+6|-3) ago  (edited ago)

Christians are overwhelmingly peaceful and dont blow themselves up like Muslims, the two groups of people are incomparable. You have to understand that Islam is literally a religion that was born out of thousands of years of war and violence. The reason it exists today is because it was the most extreme amongst many other religions and because of its violence and effectiveness in brainwashing people it survived and dominated and now were dealing with this today.

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[–] turtlesarepureevil 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago  (edited ago)

> Brings up Ku Klux Klan

Total non-issue. When was the last time the klan terrorised something?

0.7% of the population does 1/3rd of the terrorist activities in the U.S. since 9/11, could it be right wing Christians?

C E L E B RA T I N G

Polls taken several years later by Saudi-owned Al Arabiya and Gallup suggest some support for the September 11 attacks within the Islamic world, with 38% believing the attacks to be not justified, while 36% believing them to be justified when Saudis were polled in 2011. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactions_to_the_September_11_attacks#cite_ref-29

This 'moderate' muslim meme has gone too far

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[–] weezkitty 3 points 2 points (+5|-3) ago 

Just about everywhere? 71% of the US is Christian and the vast majority of them do not think positively about what this piece of shit did.

And how do they know it is religiously motivated? I am mostly anti-abortion and I am not Christian. I have never been in a church in my life.

Still, I think not only is he a piece of shit but he is a moron since PP isn't just about abortions.

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