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[–] verificationist [S] 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Unbelievable, right?!?!? Also, assholes spoiler alert: no one is blaming decent, individual Muslims for anything, or even Muslim communities, for what it's worth. We're blaming Islam. It's a toxic ideology. That decent people can pretend it's otherwise doesn't change the fact that it is.

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[–] MacaroniShits 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

It's sad that people actually think this way. I blame a lack of education and ready access to the ability to share opinions, no matter how uninformed they are.

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[–] Pattoe 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

I hate that when I criticise the Islamic faith I will be called a racist because I'm blaming Muslims... Even though I never mentioned Muslims.

I hate how, because I question and criticise something openly, I am labeled ignorant. When I ask questions and seek discussion I am 'closed minded'.

It makes no sense. Others create racism Strawmen, refuse to criticise ideologies and close their eyes to the truth...

But it is I who is ignorant

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[–] schwanstucker 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Interesting. Pakis are definitely not to blame. Except...Tashfeen Malik, one of the San Bernardino shooters was in fact Pakistani.

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[–] thefedisascam 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Another deep question is why is the west funding ISIS in the first place.

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[–] RedditIsPropaganda23 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

To overthrow Assad for an oil pipeline.

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[–] squidicuz 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Cuz Russia and resources?

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[–] thegreatinquisitor 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Actually you are wrong. The Paris attacks DID have something to do with Islam.. like 1% or so, the mental cases that did the shooting thought they were Muslims.

Also there is no such thing as True Islam, there is just Islam, the followers on the other hand can range from total bastards to deeecent human beings, in the same way not every Christian in the US is a racist KKK supporting cunt.

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[–] BrimstoneBrute 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

If 1% of Muslims are mental cases that want to massacre large numbers of people, then you're talking about 16 million homicidal maniacs in the world. Or 47,000 in France. Some of the last few attacks we've heard about, they successfully kill about 30 people.

I get that 1% is not a proper sourced example you're giving, that you're trying to diminish the scale of the problem. But it's a big problem and it's bigger than 1%. France has 2,600 mosques and they're planning to close down 160 due to promoting radical views. That's about 16% of mosques being closed. That's more than a problem, that's a crisis. The Catholic Church admitted there are at least 8,000 pedophiles within the 414,000 members of its clergy, 0.01%. But that's considered a gigantic problem while Muslim "extremists" are being ignored, brushed off as individual maniacs that don't represent the religion. If 16% of mosques are promoting radical views within a civil country like France, there's a big reason to be afraid.

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[–] thegreatinquisitor 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I get that 1% is not a proper sourced example you're giving, that you're trying to diminish the scale of the problem. But it's a big problem and it's bigger than 1%

Yes you are correct, the 1% figure was just pulled from thin air really, the real figure out of the 1.6 billion Muslims is most probably even less. If(and this is a BIG IF) there were 16 million Muslim terrorists hellbent on carrying out jihad on a global scale, there would be massacres daily, all we see at the most is a few 1000 (very exaggerated figure btw)at the most on a annual basis who we could regard as bonafide terrorists, so yeh the 1% figure sounds even more off.

France has 2,600 mosques and they're planning to close down 160 due to promoting radical views. That's about 16% of mosques being closed. That's more than a problem, that's a crisis.

France has much bigger problems than that, one of them being one of the most racist countries in Europe of how they treat their migrants. They have been calling on all their old colonies to send over people who can work and dumped them in ghettos for decades and ignored them, that is the only way 16% of the mosques could be radicalized, we don't seem to have such a radical mosque in other European nations, why only on France? I'll tell you why, the French have always mistreated all non-whites, so this 16% radical terrorist problem is very French centric, and all about mismanagement and incompetence. Just because 16% of FRENCH mosques are radical, doesn't mean 16% of the world Muslims are radicals, but it does show the French are not able to control their own population. I live in the UK, right next door to France, we have our own issues with Muslims, but nothing as bad as France, we for one don't have foreigner only ghettos that the French seem to love.

If 16% of mosques are promoting radical views within a civil country like France, there's a big reason to be afraid.

Are the French really civil and blameless?

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[–] verificationist [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It's very difficult nowadays for chicken pox to kill you. That doesn't mean that in the cases where it does kill you it's not the cause of death.