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[–] Pawn 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

developers need to add a no whine clause.

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[–] smokratez 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Good point. It's only that there are a lot of devs who are sjws.

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[–] microlyfe 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Not sure if this is written by an sjw or a social conservative

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[–] Norm85 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

And usually these opinion pieces are focussed on the indirect 'harm' this then causes girls from the supposed violence, and not on the imagined direct harm to the boys.

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[–] Lmayyyo 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

They don;t care about men.

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[–] laiv 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Were you not around during the era of Jack Thompson?

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[–] Warden 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

If you don't introduce women/minorities in your games, you're a sexist/racist because you aren't inclusive. So developers changed that.

If you do introduce women/minorities in your games, you're a sexist/racist because you can't portray each group well enough.

What now?

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[–] torky 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Make vidya. If anyone gets offended, ignore them. Doesn't matter what game you've made, doesn't matter what characters you have, or what story you tell, if they get offended by something (no matter how minor) and boycott the game, then the thing is: they were never going to buy your game in the first place. A gamer wouldn't drop a game because some minor thing like a black character not being put on a pedestal or the lack of female MC's.

I honestly doubt there are people who buy books, movies, or videogames just because of diversity. You can't sell a game or a book or film just solely on how diverse the characters are. The average joe/jane, does not care. Hell, I'm a PoC and I couldn't give less than a shit about who I'm playing. I don't look at the cover and check the main character's ethnicity or genitalia. If I can play a fucking orange drunk squirrel in a cartoon universe, I can play as who ever I wish to.

As for the people who get pissed off about those offensive games. Even if you were to add minorities or women into the game, they still aren't going to buy the damn game anyways. They're too busy getting pissed off at the next developer who managed to step out of line. Censoring games or pandering to a certain group does not mean that the game will sell. In fact, it might be just the opposite. When starting out, you were making a game for a certain demographic, but when an outside group raises a fuss and you change your game, you just changed who your demographic is, and they might not even be interested in purchasing the game.

In the end, you're selling a game, not an ideology. An ideology that will only matter to the most dedicated.

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[–] Warden 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Which is why you don't sell politics made inside games. Politics + anything else, be it games, books, movies don't mix.

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[–] Norm85 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Developers who want to reduce their exposure to this risk should focus on their main demographic, but include a modding API. Then everytime some SJW 'expert'/'software developer' complains about the game, the developers can say "we are not experts on LBQT/dragonkin/hamplanets, so we included our modding API to allow each community of people to develop their own content that meets their own expectations/standards."

These groups only want to complain, they will never produce their own stuff.

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[–] Warden 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Feminists SJW wanting games to appeal to their needs aside, it's really sad though, that we have to rely on the community to create good stories to make a game have more replayability, but this way gives more chance to interest young gamers to make their own games.

And if feminists complain about a content liked by many to the MSM (who don't care about games but will make stories about how "video games are destroying society!"), a strong community will strike back, and that's where it ends, everyone stops caring about what the problem was, feminists or the MSM.

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[–] Warden 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

They already are turning on eachother and I love it. I don't strive on drama, but it's like, grabbing some popcorn and see the feels and trigger warnings flying around against eachother.

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[–] SuperConductiveRabbi 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago  (edited ago)

The goal post they present is a phantom. Their true goal is social power and attention for themselves. They don't give one flying fuck about actual social justice.

This is why a successful modern feminist isn't one who creates some perfect depiction of a female in media (for they never propose actual ideas, but only tear down what others have created), but one who stands on a stage or at the UN and goes "FACT: I am an expert!1." This is the ultimate form of social recognition and power, and it's the dream of every SJW.

 

1 This is a real thing. That's a presentation by Anita Sarkeesian

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[–] torky 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Well, I don't think these are feminazis but instead good old-fashioned hover parents. These are the same people who advocate for the banning of every violent videogame. Probably a little SJW thrown in there, but for the most part, just the same Jack Thompsons from Christmas past. Of course, if we get articles from Gawker and the other videogame clickbait sites following suit, then yeah, it's the feminazis.

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[–] OneOfTheBoys 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I think this article, it's headline and OPs headline are all hype, so everybody should chill. Read the short thing again in all its glory and laugh.

The highlight is:

"Players of COD:BO3 kill opponents with an array of weapons or even bare hands. Sue Palmer, a Child development expert, said of the 18+ Rated game: 'It will have the same impact on girls as it will have in any child.' "

So young children shouldn't play R18 games? Wow!

Note no evidence of marketing to children put forward, and the other quoted person doesn't want realistic games, and thinks being a woman playing a woman is too much ( but not guys playing guys? Or 1080pixels?)

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[–] arrjayjee 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

There are Call of Duty toys in the toy section of most big stores, so while this game might not specifically be targeted at kids, the brand itself definitely is.

I agree with everything else you said though. You can't please them because they don't want to be pleased. They want to be offended because they think it gives them some kind of moral authority. And power and authority is all they really want.

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[–] OneOfTheBoys 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

They didn't say that they sell toys in the article though and I didn't know that. But then you have toy guns and swords and action man and G.I. Joe... Always something. Maybe R18+ rating for toys? /s

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[–] FidgetyImp 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

the point is not to attain some form of justice, equality or fair treatment. The whole purpose is to create division and tension. These people are nothing more than sock puppets, useful idiots at best. It has nothing to do with COD3, nothing to do with female characters, nothing to do with development in young girls. The only thing that matters is that we argue and fight.

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[–] Javik2186 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Social Justice Warriors aren't true warriors. They're a bunch of whining hypocrties abusing the system to get their way.

Have a game with female characters to add diversity. Mass Effect, Star Wars, Mirror's Edge and many other games have that diversity.

Complains about the negative behavioral effects on girls. Funny thing is, that most girls between the age group 8-14 don't play games like Call of Duty. This article is absolute non-sense, there is no data to back up their claims or they're using certain argument fallacies to push his/her opinions onto the populace to gain attention and add more fire to the SJAs (Social Justice Abusers) idiotic cause.

To the SJAs or whatever you call yourselves as you read this. If you want to be good "Social Justice Warriors". Go fight for the unjustice for social causes that need more attention, like the corrupted Police/Justice system, racism, unjust laws, wars, and other policies that cause more harm. Raise money for good projects, like research for ALS or help fix the mental care facilities for returning veterans. Leave us be. We just want to be alone, play and enjoy our games without any interference from people like You, Nancy Grace, Alex Jones, and many others who just want us to suffer by playing the "Blame Game". Blaming us for large acts of violence orchestrated by insane people who needed the help, but didn't get it because of an healthcare system that is seriously broken. The truth is, that is an very important cause you should really be fighting for anyway. Plus your "Safe Space" policies in colleges and universities, is absolute fascism.

I know I'm ripping out a few nerves, but this message is warranted and it needed to be done. If you don't like it, fine. Send all the hate mail you like, because none of it will make me remove this message.

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