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[–] Atko 0 points 422 points (+422|-0) ago 

Wow, a co-founder of Reddit knows about Voat! :D

He says we fake subscriber numbers? Yeah.. actually, no, we don't. The somewhat sad truth is, we don't fake any numbers whatsoever and I have no way to prove that other than publicly releasing dumps of Voat databases. But that he would even think that... I simply must take it as a compliment :)

I guess only time will tell ;)

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[–] go1dfish [S] 0 points 77 points (+77|-0) ago 

This isn't the first time spez has noticed Voat:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3cxedn/i_am_steve_huffman_the_new_ceo_of_reddit_ama/cszwgi0

kn0thing made some indirect reference about embedding youtube players as well but I can't find it.

I never felt like the numbers were were fake, but the "users here now" metric seems to be based on a longer time period than reddit and that might be what he's referring to.

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[–] HP48GX 0 points 128 points (+128|-0) ago 

spez is aiming for the "no, our recent business decisions did not coerce tens of thousands of people to consider voat as an alternative to reddit" underlying meaning.

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[–] Br0k3nsn0fl6k32 0 points 65 points (+65|-0) ago 

Spez is a piece of human waste so he assumes everyone else is; there's a reason kn0thing had to see a therapist before contacting him again.

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[–] wollington 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago 

reddit had better technology than Digg. I don't think Voat has better technology than reddit.

Ya know, aside from embedded images and videos, light and dark mode, a good mobile site, showing up and downvoats, showing individual CCP and SCP, a decent settings menu, optional profile bios (and profile pics), sub blocking (can't remember if reddit had that or not), downvoat blocking to prevent trolls, and better post sorting within your profile.

Ya know, bad technology.

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[–] HomerSimpson 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

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[–] CamillaBok 0 points 48 points (+48|-0) ago 

Way to go, Atko!

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[–] SuperConductiveRabbi 0 points 39 points (+39|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Congrats, Atko. You run a better website than one of the co-founders of Reddit, and your site is so successful that he has to accuse you of lying for him to even understand it. On top of all that it's a side project for you! It must really eat him up.

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[–] xwwarriorx 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

Oh man I never thought of that... one man's side project is eating the lunch of another man's literal life's work. Hah.

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[–] xwwarriorx 1 points 22 points (+23|-1) ago 

You know you've made it when your competitor accuses you of cheating. Awesome job, thanks and please keep going!

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[–] thoughtpolice 0 points 87 points (+87|-0) ago 

What subscriber numbers is he referring to? The number of subscribers shown in each sub front page? Those numbers are real on VOAT.

There are 45000 users that made at least one post in VOAT, the largest sub in VOAT is /v/news with 59455 subscribers. Totally possible.

He is a cheater so he assumes others cheat? What a scumbag.

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[–] ArchangelleShe 0 points 56 points (+56|-0) ago 

Not only that, but unlike reddit, Voat doesn't automatically subscribe new users to the default subs. So if anything, the number of subscribers is under represented.

I visit /v/all and block anything I don't like. I'm not subscribed to /v/news even though I visit it every day. I know there are many like me.

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[–] AreMyBoobsAProblem 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

Can confirm. I barely subscribe to anything and mostly cruise /v/all.

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[–] trollingisavaccine 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Not only that, but unlike reddit, Voat doesn't automatically subscribe new users to the default subs. So if anything, the number of subscribers is under represented.

Didnt Voat wipe some historic subscriber figures at some point? Was that just on certain big subs... It would be interesting if Voat could somehow process subscribers who are active and prune the abandoned accounts on all subs. Reddit gave a useful metric when it added 'Users here now', but the total subscriber counts are pretty useless for showing true active subscribers.

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[–] Empire_of_the_mind 3 points 0 points (+3|-3) ago 

you should block /v/news, too

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[–] go1dfish [S] 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

[–] [deleted] 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

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[–] Loumedia 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Now they fake votes to shill coke ads to the front page.

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[–] kevdude 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Maybe spez is amalek and he is referring to the fact that 1000 of those accounts are amalek.

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[–] TwentySeven 0 points 51 points (+51|-0) ago 

So Spez's position is if I'm a liar then everyone else is too. What an Ahole!

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[–] poodog 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

It's an example of that "my reality is the only reality" train of thought selfish inconsiderate people tend to have

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[–] Chuck_Testa 0 points 43 points (+43|-0) ago 

The fact that Voat is not monetized, and doesn't appear to be in the near future, certainly lends more credence to actual subscribers; there is no need to inflate any numbers, at least from an advertising prospective.

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[–] PlasmaDistortion 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

I really wish that Voat would at least turn on some ads. I would happily click on them.

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[–] FromThatOtherSite 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

Ads are how Reddit became... Reddit. Donations need to be back on instead.

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[–] cynoclast 0 points 34 points (+34|-0) ago 

Users can vote posts up or down, and through crowd curation the most favored items ascend to Reddit’s front page.

Yeah this is bullshit. In the hours and days after the FPH banning you could see protest posts dominating /r/all/rising, but they'd never appear on the front page.

Secret censorship was definitely happening.

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[–] ForgotMyName 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Reddit as a company is and always has been full of crap. There was a period where it was better than it is now, but I love that he's admitting that they've always lied, the site has always been intentionally deceptive, and he's completely unashamed about it.

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[–] jaceame 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Secret censorship

Was there a point where it was secret? Because only the idiots still willing to use the site are ignorant of reddits' proud history of censorship.

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[–] trollingisavaccine 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Because only the idiots still willing to use the site are ignorant of reddits' proud history of censorship.

Not really, there are plenty of idiots who know the story and still use reddit.

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[–] Son_Of_Hate 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

You pressed the Goku button. Shouldn't have done that.

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[–] IGN_Review 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA

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[–] johnP 7 points 23 points (+30|-7) ago 

"since returning to Reddit, Huffman has vomited from stress several times."

Poor baby nigger faggot.

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[–] go1dfish [S] 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

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[–] Thinchick 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Yep, but everything is fine. Don't mind me, I'm just stress vomiting.

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[–] meno 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

What a cringy comment. What does that even do besides making you look as a fucking retard like Huffman?

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[–] DungeonMaster 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Prove that voat allows free speech.

bitch.

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[–] MrBlueSky 1 points 22 points (+23|-1) ago 

"Huffman has vomited from stress several times."

Just like me when I go back to reddit

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[–] go1dfish [S] 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

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[–] IGN_Review 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Man, you have a lot of south park vomit .gifs

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[–] idonotvoat 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

It's all about seein' them upvotes and downvotes.

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