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[–] Dashippy 14 points 77 points (+91|-14) ago 

People reckon it's the work of shills and SJWs trying to drive people out of Voat. Realistically if you block the hate subs then they're gone. I've barely seen a shred of fat people hate since I blocked Fat People Hate. Even though I haven't blocked the racist subverses yet I also barely see racism anywhere outside of there. What I see is people not being afraid to mention race, but not being racist about it.

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[–] Redditsdead [S] 4 points 32 points (+36|-4) ago 

I think you hit the nail on the head. Race is a very relevant topic to talk about, though I think culture is the real issue. Race just makes culture easily identifiable. I fully believe that all races are generally equal. Cultures definitely are not. I believe the culture I was raised in is far superior to any of those in the Middle East or most of Africa. If people from there want to bring their culture over here, cool. I like trying different foods and celebrating cool holidays. Just leave the bigotry, dogma and any will to inflict their beliefs on others back home. I don't think any immigrant should undeportable. You pull any shit, say goodbye.

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[–] Dashippy 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

And it's not racist to feel that way. It really isn't. Generally I think the same way you do. I feel that if you want to live in another country you should acclimate yourself to their culture, rather than try and force yours on them.

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[–] pgtl_10 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

You claim your culture is superior but want others to leave bigotry at home?

Okay....sure bud.

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[–] eagleshigh 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

I fully believe that all races are generally equal.

Ha. Evolution didn't make changes to each population based on where those ancestors evolved for tens of thousands of years? We are ALL THE SAME in every way? Really?

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[–] bulksalty 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Keep in mind that some people percieve racism in very innocuous things.

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[–] Laurentius_the_pyro 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

"Strategically placed watermelons"

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[–] Guerilla 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Yes, I for example found it suspicious and was pissed off that this title was in the front page today "White girl and toddler attacked by pack of black teens" by a /v/niggers poster with top comments in the thread talking about niggers and apes, again, by /v/niggers posters. Yeah, I'm strange like that.

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[–] barset 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

I see more FPH bleeding out than anything and even then it's very minor. A bit of racism in the threads dealing with the recent gangrape in Sweden, but it's kind of expected in that case with the large influx of Muslims in Europe.

Other than that I don't really see much since blocking a small handful of subverses.

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[–] Turbo_Sloth 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

The issue is the fat haters stick to their sub, but the racists spill into other subverses.

Most people come to voat for free speech, but also for an enjoyable experience, and the racists in particular are ruining that and casual users would rather complain or leave than deal with it constantly.

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[–] Lootaluck 9 points 53 points (+62|-9) ago 

That's not the issue, the racism is driving the posts in all the subs, from /v/videos to /v/news

I'd like to just hang out in two niche subs like I did on reddit, that's not an option here there's not enough people or content in the smaller subs

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[–] Sippio 1 points 32 points (+33|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Honestly, I'm glad comments here don't get deleted for their opinions, but way too often I /v/news posts have seriously hateful ignorant bullshit as top comments. I remember a post a little while ago about the poor conditions of U.S. prisons, and the top comment was something about how blacks are naturally more violent, and deserve this treatment. It was at around +100|-20. I don't think we should censor these, but it is a startling reflection of the views shared by the community.

edit: spelling

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[–] voat-simulator 2 points 12 points (+14|-2) ago 

So it's not just me? Other people have been noticing this, too?

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[–] fila 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

And /v/technology is full of Microsoft fearmongering and Linux shills. So what.

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[–] Genghis_Khan 12 points 25 points (+37|-12) ago  (edited ago)

First, the problem isn't just racists, it's the unchecked fuckery and baiting and smearing, within which is the racism. Included in this group are the she-fetishists, the fatty-fetishists, the "I have free speech so I'm going to say the most inflammatory shit I can think of"-ists, etc.

Second, if blocking the respective spaces was enough it would indeed not be a problem. But those people aren't happy enough having a site where they can have their subs to say what they want. They also need to go into the rest of the subs and exercise their free "speech."

Third, which is what I think really exacerbates the problem, is that there are groups that are obviously using alts to upbomb the stupid shit, likely because they think it's funny. In fact, I would wager that most of the racists and idiots aren't even racists or idiots. They're just amusing themselves. Too bad, I say.

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[–] Zodi 3 points 8 points (+11|-3) ago 

I feel like a large portion really are racists and sexist. I'd say 10% or less is what you described. The groups that are just trying to piss people off.

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[–] tpdplsio 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago 

This is why we can't have nice things. People see something with potential and they just want to ruin it. How the fuck do they justify it to themselves?

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[–] Genghis_Khan 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

I think the rationale is more or less "because I can."

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[–] voat-simulator 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

The psych 101 answer is that they have low self-esteem and want to feel superior. An easy way to do that is to create a situation where they are in control and make another person feel angry and helpless.

Often people grow out of this because it doesn't provide any long-term fulfillment, but at any given time, but there will always be a few. This is why you don't feed the trolls: they get bored a lot faster if you don't.

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[–] UrCoolerOlderBrother 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

just because people are saying things that you disagree with and other people (many other people) are agreeing with them(in the form of upvotes) doesn't mean there is sort of alterior motive like racism, or just to fuck with people. Maybe the fact is most reasonable people all seem to agree on the same things and for some reason your brain can't handle seeing and hearing those things so you have to cry racism and fuckery and try to get everyone to accommodate you, when in reality it is you that should fuck right off. No one cares about your feels and it's laughable that you can't handle looking at words on the internets cas of raycissst. Grow up, grow a pair, grow more brain cells, just grow some how and face the facts.

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[–] Redditsdead [S] 6 points 1 points (+7|-6) ago 

Not everyone realizes that they are shills though. Voat is open for registration again so we probably have a lot of newbies here. I don't want them to fall into Sheand her cohorts trap.

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[–] Lootaluck 2 points 5 points (+7|-2) ago 

I'm sorry, it's shills that are posting...

https://voat.co/v/politics/comments/459730/2126813

Because these are the kind of comments I'm seeing in all the defaults all the time

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[–] JJEvil 4 points 12 points (+16|-4) ago 

It's not easy to avoid when it's spilling over to the other popular subs. Check the comments on that post on /v/videos today of the black girls attacking the other girl and her brother. Half the comments are super racist and the other half are confused users wondering when the voat community became so racist. Normal users are being driven off and replaced with a hate echo chamber.

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[–] Guerilla 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

It should also be noted that the title is highly racist and that the OP is a /v/niggers poster too. It's quite obvious that these fucks are contacting organized brigading from somewhere else.

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[–] Vvswiftvv17 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I've been blocking like crazy. Soon I won't have anything left.

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[–] bannana 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I've blocked the bad subs and see racist crap in the defaults quite often.

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[–] Orthum 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Can we block particular people? That would be fucking nice... Block the poison... cure the would...

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[–] RaxSnax 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I think the issue with that is that there are people that would block everyone with dissenting views and essentially create an echo chamber. I guess that'd be more of a personal problem though.

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[–] Orthum 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You are right. I mean not everyone self governs and self improves. Unfortunately.
But it would be nice to have a debate about something like immigration and being poor and not read racial slurs after like 3 comments.

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[–] Fenrirwulf 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Let them create a safe sand box if that is what they want, it won't effect the rest of us.

I have blocked a lot of verses. Any based on hate and sports instantly gets blocked for me. I don't care to see posts from those verses but me blocking them doesn't stop anyone else from being able to see them. The same with users. I will most likely use the block user function less than the block verse one but there are some users who have proven that they have nothing worthwhile to say and it would be nice not have to scroll past their inane dribble.

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[–] napolean 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

You're an idiot, that's what reddit does. Isn't this suppose to be better?

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[–] Orthum 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

No, me you fucking idiot, I want to block you, So I don't have to listen to you idiocy or see you stupid fucking comments. Your free to make comments, but it tells me, your blocked you dumb cunt.

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