... And here I seem to be one of 'the cattle' if I believe half of the things that are written in subs like v/technology.
Anyone else feels like the mood here is waaaay too paranoid and anti corporate? I always advocated open an transparent rules and regulations. With things going more towards cloud based products that is a necessary evil. I say this sentiment in other privacy and security minded people: Microsoft and Google are not evil persé, but should be clear about what they do with data. Now, here on Voat everyone seems to dig in against all of this, and advocate exclusively stand alone, open source solutions as the only way to guard privacy.
Furthermore, rather than being a nice place to discuss issues, Voat is proving time and time again that it likes drama way too much. Am I the only one who is disappointed in what this place has become? (and rather quickly too) I don't even care anymore that Reddit looked like a trainwreck a month ago, because for all the meme's and cat gifs, is is at least no conspiracy central.
Or, you know, maybe I am actually part of the herd.
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[–] Orfion 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Cloud based solutions are great in theory until they are misused. As with privacy and rights people tend not to realize the gravity of the situation until it is too late. For instance, there is a post about someone being sued for his negative opinion on a certain group of persons. Your own opinion could be held against you when your group of friends turn you in to the theoretical thought police for anti-government thinking because of your paranoia. Cloud computing will become subscription based holding you hostage each month to pay your software bills to Microsoft, Adobe, etc. They want to model after cable companies and other subscriptions. No more using a computer and old OS/software for 10 years. If you could go back and stop the IRS from being created would you do it? That sort of monster is what people on here are trying to stop. The "people are generally benevolent and we have nothing to fear" crowd won't realize how wrong they are until it is too late to do anything about it. Unless social engineering and data aggregation keep us all fat, dumb and happy.
Tl;Dr You're not paranoid enough.
[–] Mongolera [S] ago
Oh, I agree with that sentiment, and that's why I do imply strategies such as VPN's, educate myself on what parts of the software I use are sketchy and try to tell others about the dangers of carelessly using the internet, to name a few things. However, what you are saying is actually a well thought out piece while most of the posts/replies I am talking about are something in the lines of this (with my flavoring included to make a point):
So what I was going at was the tone of the 'debate'. Not the debate itself. I think it would be a great idea if there would be discussions on the usage, necessity and dangers of modern technology because it will have an impact on our social structures and understanding of ethics like nothing has before, but here it is mostly a circlejerk with a lot of namedropping and competitions on voicing an extreme (populist) opinion.
Oh, one reply that I read even went something like this:
Whether true or false, it was yet another 'cool conspiracy' thing to shout out in my opinion. But anyway, enough of my jazz :P
[–] Voopin__Voopin ago
Now we're talking. Love that TL;DR