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[–] peacegnome 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You would be a big fan of Bev Harris; she's been at this for many years.

I think that we should popularize an open source project for voting and have it be able to be deployed by a normal IT staff from a county (or a contractor if they don't have staff). If a county or state would like to use it then it would be free, and if it was even slightly popular then we could fund audits.

Right now everything is proprietary and when we have glimpsed what is going on it is always bad.

Also, it is 2020, we could easily do paper ballots, in person, with id, with complete chain of custody; then scan these ballots and put the scans online (torrent per county or precinct, or just aws, it wouldn't cost much), then the data people of the world could process them and find problems. Right now we get these blips of data with nothing backing them like "biden gains 140000, trump gains nothing, no comments attached for this delta", and until there is a recount even the party reps can't see what happened. They are obviously hiding something, this is how someone cheating acts. And really it should be a zero trust process, treating vote counting as anything else is ignorant and irrational.

[–] Hand_of_Node ago 

treating vote counting as anything else is ignorant and irrational.

I'm going to argue that this is incorrect on two counts. Firstly, we don't treat vote counting as anything else, which is the problem. Secondly, the implication that a cheat-friendly system is irrational is the opposite of reality. When the winners gain the ability to literally control the lives of the losers, and the larger number is the only criteria that matters, ensuring your sides ability to "think outside the box" (cheat) is very rational in a society composed of cultures and races at war.

You're correct about how to make the ballots more secure, and the count more accurate, but that is clearly not what the actual owners of the United States want.


A popular meme account on one of the chans said "It's all a show. You're watching a movie."

The cult followers interpreted it as intended, to only apply to a specific instance, but it was the literal truth about the operation of what we perceive as 'our society'. Few enjoy the idea of essentially being cattle on a feedlot, or even in a pasture with real grass, so the vast majority of us cattle focus instead on the minutiae of everyday life. How to make the distribution of hay more fair. Who gets milked first. Whether the electricity powering the milking machines comes from sustainable sources...