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We take apart machines from high industry from as far back as the 20's and we were able to accomplish those tolerances.
Everything became disposable. Every company that had a bulletproof product eventually figured out cost cutting measures. Initially these measures led to cost reduction without lowering quality. As the post-war economy boomed and competition increased - quality was further hit by the need to get to market early and mass produce.
It is not our technology or limit of resources that is the problem. It is the artifice of usury and our psuedo-capitalist system which results.
Instead of a fake money-printing economy where you are expected to have a new car every 5 years or you're falling behind - we could have true capitalism where you buy a turbine powerplant that lasts you for 20 years.
Jay Leno has a few Electric Cars from the 1900's, one of which still has usable batteries. He also has a functioning turbine hybrid car. I want to say AM General or someone made it. It has 6 wheels but never went into production.
It only made 140 horsepower, 787 jet engine makes somewhere around 50-100x that without really attempting to do any math. Do you think cast iron is up to the challenge?
Unfortunately they just don’t have the fuel efficiency for low altitude automotive style use. People have tried many different methods to improve this but basic thermodynamic laws can not be changed.
China isn't even capable of making some of the extreme alloys used modern engines. Let alone would anyone buy one because it's literally the business culture to lie to sell.
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[–] belrial 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
Idk, maybe because everything is made to ten thousandths tolerances, and a lot of parts are made of Monel, Inconel, or Titanium?
[–] WorldClown ago
But this is the entire argument.
We take apart machines from high industry from as far back as the 20's and we were able to accomplish those tolerances.
Everything became disposable. Every company that had a bulletproof product eventually figured out cost cutting measures. Initially these measures led to cost reduction without lowering quality. As the post-war economy boomed and competition increased - quality was further hit by the need to get to market early and mass produce.
It is not our technology or limit of resources that is the problem. It is the artifice of usury and our psuedo-capitalist system which results.
Instead of a fake money-printing economy where you are expected to have a new car every 5 years or you're falling behind - we could have true capitalism where you buy a turbine powerplant that lasts you for 20 years.
Jay Leno has a few Electric Cars from the 1900's, one of which still has usable batteries. He also has a functioning turbine hybrid car. I want to say AM General or someone made it. It has 6 wheels but never went into production.
[–] goatboy [S] ago
Turbine engines used to be made of cast iron and worked just fine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Turbine_Car
[–] bbqchipz ago
It only made 140 horsepower, 787 jet engine makes somewhere around 50-100x that without really attempting to do any math. Do you think cast iron is up to the challenge?
[–] DemocratsAreAssholes ago
No chance of a car falling 35,000 feet, now is there.
Personally, I would want something a little more "reliable".
[–] DemocratsAreAssholes 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Would you want to be on a plane with "low cost turbine engines made in china"?
I sure wouldn't...
[–] goatboy [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
No. I do want to be in a pickup truck, tractor, or mobile home with one though.
[–] Paulsmith1958 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Unfortunately they just don’t have the fuel efficiency for low altitude automotive style use. People have tried many different methods to improve this but basic thermodynamic laws can not be changed.
[–] moosethenoose ago
As others have said - the exotic materials and tolerances are too high for something being put into a consumer vehicle.
And yeah, China making turbine engines? Nope.
I've worked with the Chinese - they have the lowest level of pride in workmanship or quality I have ever seen.
[–] bbqchipz ago
China isn't even capable of making some of the extreme alloys used modern engines. Let alone would anyone buy one because it's literally the business culture to lie to sell.