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Many more but they are mostly academics that aren't mega stars outside of their respective specialties. Humorously enough, both of those guys are Jews. A lot of people at Voat, although merited in their anger, like to vigorously discredit the fact that the gifted Jews tend to be very high-achieving, and disproportionately revolutionary in the things they apply themselves to. The examples tend to be brilliant and also kind of mentally unstable.
Modern era, preferably alive. VOAT is quick to tear people down and dismiss their achievements, especially if the person has any Jewish lineage, but I never hear them say anything good about anyone who isn't a guy on Bitchute trashing Jews/Israel or some Twitter troll going up against the Libtards. It seems as though anyone successful gets immediately torn down here from celebs, to musicians to artists and now to CEOs.
So, the exact same thing Jews do to all successful white people, except they have so much power that they do it publicly and openly. Someone claiming to be a Jew or is a Jew, should prioritize themselves to stand against all the evils that their people are committing. They should be open advocates against the child abuse that is transgenderism. They should be openly criticising Israel and Jews for their double standard on border walls and ethostates. I could go on and on.
You want us to praise Jews, yet they would never reciprocate that praise. Just like niggers, kikes can go be kikes in kikeland. They should have their own society and we should have our own. Then, from a distance, we can admire people among them who achieve greatness and they are welcome to reciprocate.
We don't have whites in Israel trying to convince THEIR children to be trannies or fags. We don't have whites in Israel trying to open their borders. We don't have whites in Israel fighting for more illiterate immigrants.
It's a double standard and until their own people start openly speaking up against the atrocities their own people openly practice, they can have the rope just like the rest of them. Every child that doesn't reproduce children and later kills themselves in middle age because they fell for the Jews degeneracy trap is blood on their hands and blood should be paid in blood. Don't even get me started with the Kike Sackler family of Purdue Pharma and the hundreds of thousands they have openly and viciously murdered.
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Yeah, this is a tough subject. There is a LOT going on here. But to put it really roughly, it seems that in some general (but fundamental way) something has exposed a lot of the structures that used to produce Western men's heroes. We grow up with a certain idea in mind about the nature of reality and our culture's story. This imparts the kinds of values and criteria for how we select our heroes. I think for many reasons (and one thing that distinguishes us from the Jew), but having hugely to do with parents of the last few generations, we were raised with very naive ideas about that reality. That's not saying, necessarily, that most of the generations in the West before us weren't perfectly not naive, but that we were naive in some important kind of way at some special moment in time where that narrative and many of those structures were exposed as false to us. We all know this feeling, even though it is difficult to articulate. It's what makes it harder for most of us here to socialize today (except with groups of strictly like-minded people). It's what makes it hard to watch much television, or to really get into series or films. We've been unplugged from the cultural matrix and most of the things we grew up relying on for heroes and inspiration no longer serves that function, and we are largely left with empty concepts.
I've barely touched on the experience of this. But I don't have to. Everyone here knows what this feels like. The fact is many of us don't have cultural heroes anymore that act as symbols of "our" people or heritage. We might really respect certain people for their competence at this or that. But it's almost as if heroes are dead.
This, among many others, is one reason why I believe so many people here hate the Jew. The Jew is really, really adept at destroying these cultural matrices - revolution is what they do. And many people here didn't want to be let out of the matrix, but they had no choice. That matrix was shifting so fast in terms of values and beliefs about the world that they self-selected for exclusion. So there's also this strange brew of resentment at the Jew, but also at their own people. It's all very alienating.
There's something, in my personal experience, that makes it difficult for me to "buy in" to the larger-than-life narratives that used to support the kind of adoration you're talking about. I see a lot flatter world. I look around and see games being played. Money games. People being groomed to be put here. Artificial, fabricated and abstract narratives mostly propagated by television and internet. It's almost like there is some fundamental necessity to be plugged into that in some way, in order that you can "buy in" to this or that personality. When you can't plug in, you just feel like an observer on the outside of it. I can honestly say I don't feel any kind of connection to someone in culture that I would call adoration or hero worship. Not even close.
As adults we tend not to use that language anyway. Things become less about heroes and more about respect. So many people at Voat find that these figures they may have once respected are Jews, and that respect is lost because this instantiates the stereotyped Jew background story: nepotism and social networks put this person where they were and Jew magic created a story to captivate the ignorant goyim. In some cases, I think they're right. In others they're not. In the cases where they are right, I'm not sure I think they are right for the right reasons.
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[–] chirogonemd 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
What era? Post WWII?
Wittgenstein, Kripke
Many more but they are mostly academics that aren't mega stars outside of their respective specialties. Humorously enough, both of those guys are Jews. A lot of people at Voat, although merited in their anger, like to vigorously discredit the fact that the gifted Jews tend to be very high-achieving, and disproportionately revolutionary in the things they apply themselves to. The examples tend to be brilliant and also kind of mentally unstable.
[–] killkillkill 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
Modern era, preferably alive. VOAT is quick to tear people down and dismiss their achievements, especially if the person has any Jewish lineage, but I never hear them say anything good about anyone who isn't a guy on Bitchute trashing Jews/Israel or some Twitter troll going up against the Libtards. It seems as though anyone successful gets immediately torn down here from celebs, to musicians to artists and now to CEOs.
[–] obvious-throwaway- [S] 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago (edited ago)
So, the exact same thing Jews do to all successful white people, except they have so much power that they do it publicly and openly. Someone claiming to be a Jew or is a Jew, should prioritize themselves to stand against all the evils that their people are committing. They should be open advocates against the child abuse that is transgenderism. They should be openly criticising Israel and Jews for their double standard on border walls and ethostates. I could go on and on.
You want us to praise Jews, yet they would never reciprocate that praise. Just like niggers, kikes can go be kikes in kikeland. They should have their own society and we should have our own. Then, from a distance, we can admire people among them who achieve greatness and they are welcome to reciprocate.
We don't have whites in Israel trying to convince THEIR children to be trannies or fags. We don't have whites in Israel trying to open their borders. We don't have whites in Israel fighting for more illiterate immigrants.
It's a double standard and until their own people start openly speaking up against the atrocities their own people openly practice, they can have the rope just like the rest of them. Every child that doesn't reproduce children and later kills themselves in middle age because they fell for the Jews degeneracy trap is blood on their hands and blood should be paid in blood. Don't even get me started with the Kike Sackler family of Purdue Pharma and the hundreds of thousands they have openly and viciously murdered.
So no, I won't be praising any fuckng Jews.
[–] chirogonemd 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago (edited ago)
Yeah, this is a tough subject. There is a LOT going on here. But to put it really roughly, it seems that in some general (but fundamental way) something has exposed a lot of the structures that used to produce Western men's heroes. We grow up with a certain idea in mind about the nature of reality and our culture's story. This imparts the kinds of values and criteria for how we select our heroes. I think for many reasons (and one thing that distinguishes us from the Jew), but having hugely to do with parents of the last few generations, we were raised with very naive ideas about that reality. That's not saying, necessarily, that most of the generations in the West before us weren't perfectly not naive, but that we were naive in some important kind of way at some special moment in time where that narrative and many of those structures were exposed as false to us. We all know this feeling, even though it is difficult to articulate. It's what makes it harder for most of us here to socialize today (except with groups of strictly like-minded people). It's what makes it hard to watch much television, or to really get into series or films. We've been unplugged from the cultural matrix and most of the things we grew up relying on for heroes and inspiration no longer serves that function, and we are largely left with empty concepts.
I've barely touched on the experience of this. But I don't have to. Everyone here knows what this feels like. The fact is many of us don't have cultural heroes anymore that act as symbols of "our" people or heritage. We might really respect certain people for their competence at this or that. But it's almost as if heroes are dead.
This, among many others, is one reason why I believe so many people here hate the Jew. The Jew is really, really adept at destroying these cultural matrices - revolution is what they do. And many people here didn't want to be let out of the matrix, but they had no choice. That matrix was shifting so fast in terms of values and beliefs about the world that they self-selected for exclusion. So there's also this strange brew of resentment at the Jew, but also at their own people. It's all very alienating.
There's something, in my personal experience, that makes it difficult for me to "buy in" to the larger-than-life narratives that used to support the kind of adoration you're talking about. I see a lot flatter world. I look around and see games being played. Money games. People being groomed to be put here. Artificial, fabricated and abstract narratives mostly propagated by television and internet. It's almost like there is some fundamental necessity to be plugged into that in some way, in order that you can "buy in" to this or that personality. When you can't plug in, you just feel like an observer on the outside of it. I can honestly say I don't feel any kind of connection to someone in culture that I would call adoration or hero worship. Not even close.
As adults we tend not to use that language anyway. Things become less about heroes and more about respect. So many people at Voat find that these figures they may have once respected are Jews, and that respect is lost because this instantiates the stereotyped Jew background story: nepotism and social networks put this person where they were and Jew magic created a story to captivate the ignorant goyim. In some cases, I think they're right. In others they're not. In the cases where they are right, I'm not sure I think they are right for the right reasons.