It's the same. Be a strong, independent (person) and don't let the opposite sex and the institution dictate your life choices.
If you MGTOW autists can't see that, then you're just like the fembots the kike lie already infected.
The bottom line is feminism and MGOTW reduces the number of white families making (((them))) absolutely ecstatic. The more babies you have and the healthier your family is, the more it pisses of the people who fucking hate you. MGTOW means you're worthless to society, and less likely to pass on your genes as not having a wife means you're more likely to have children with teal colored hair and septum piercings that wear Ché shirts.
Good job, you fucking played yourself and you are a disgrace to your race.
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[–] Obrez 1 point 2 points 3 points (+3|-1) ago (edited ago)
I never understood how right wingers could be mad at MRAs I get it "more white babies" I agree we need more whites but marrying yourself to a dumpster fire that will divorce you at the drop of a hat and ruin your children like we see all around us every day all day, is a terrible idea, there aren't enough good women to go around today so we need to scare the next generation of girls into abandoning feminism by refusing to associate with the women who fuel the coal fire that is burning our civilization. You could logically say that will leave us with a lost generation of men and women but I say we use the left's tactics against itself, they want to push degeneracy by lowering the age of consent and we want obedient women whose place is in the home, we should be pushing an age gap so that right-wing men establish themselves and marry the youngest girls they are legally able to, the goal being to mimic the control our ancestors had over their women by not giving them this time destroy their purity and become poison to their people, it's a successful strategy in Islam and other conquest cultures.
Not every mgtow is trying to achieve this but most could be led to this position, yes there are degenerate mgtow, who avoid all Western women like the plague and will settle for Asians who treat them well, the problem anyone on the right should have isn't with mgtow, mgtow is a symptom of a cancer in our society and that cancer is women's liberation.
Instead of flinging turds at the various men's movements you should be nurturing and guiding them because they were the road most of us traveled to get here and can guide many more.
I'll outline how the elements of what was once called the manosphere guided me and how in turn we should be nurturing them towards our shared end goals.
In high school I did one of the very first no fap challenges on 4chan, in small part to see if I could do it but in part because I wanted the rumored/speculated testosterone boost and primarily the top shelf orgasm at the other end, this challenge was promoted on image boards along side many guides for the extremely lustful interests of young men to master or at least learn the arts of seduction so I dedicated much time to studying and practicing pick up artistry, from a fatherless home myself I had no guidance about women most boys growing up today won't have a man to guide them in their relationships, they need guidance and PUAs mostly care about pussy, not society. From here I found a community birthed by the intersection of the mass of men abstaining masterbation finding newfound motivation to pursue carnal pursuits with desperate efficiency and discovering the state of women it has evolved into a social theory that continually proves itself and bases itself on mass collection of field data and self improvement, The Red Pill, "TRP" has brother movements that b came the "manosphere" around a decade ago: NoFap a half formed brother which was coopted by controlled opposition and killed from within in just a few years. MGTOW, these were men saying that they weren't interested in pursuing the common women of our time, not some vow to remain celibate or avoid marriage or shun all women but to set their own standards and keep them, some men in this group have impossible standards or just hide behind the label as a coping mechanism but most are just disregaurding females on some general terms, if a good woman made an effort to make a catch out of one she would be able to 9 out of 10 times. MRAs, men's rights advocates, these guys are doing a good thing and fighting the culture war against feminism, politically I'm not necessarily a fan of their notion of fixing the problem at hand, I see them as combat medics providing emergency care to a system that has been shit in the aorta and needs serious intervention they cannot provide but they have good optics and raise the big problems to people blinded by kikes. A huge spattering of cucks and kikes subverting these movements internally, whom we could identify and show the [wooden] door if more of us chose to interact with and guide these movements. The last is the newborns of the manosphere it's sort of the aborted child if the time when that buzzword was gaining steam, the Incel community. "Incels" [involuntary celibates] are complicated many are frustrated aging virgins but it genuinely appears that many are just men who have come to learn the true nature of women and hate them, and so I would say that the Incel community are maybe half virgins, maybe a bit more, only half of whom are really involuntary celibates the other half just won't fuck fatties, uggly chicks, negresses etc, they are picky, they want good women but they can read the matrix and so don't try until they find a great girl then have no chance because they have no experience with a remotely successful relationship. The other side of the Incel community are mgtow and trp guys who just hate the modern woman and enjoy the Incel community memes and banter.
The right should be guiding the no fap community as it once did before sectarian division between Protestants and Catholics were wedged open by kikes and sjws who wanted to kill it. TRP and PUA can't be lead by us but we should be making a pro social argument for behavior in these places and teaching the tricks to our men and boys, they have great advice even for men looking to marry virgins as a virgin, they are a good portal by which to mentor young men looking for masculine guidance. MGTOW men are at the very least busy worker bees looking to improve their lives and ripe for the redpill on Jews and many other things, we should be able to get along and ideologically pollinate them. We should be participating if only to drive kikes out, these communities already lean right across the board rejecting them would be foolish when we need allies and allowing kikes to flourish and defeat whom they perceive as a threat where we could easily fight them back would be a massive failure on our part. The Incel crown aren't great optics but they make good memes and are extraordinarily politically incorrect these aren't men we should discard these are the men we should be fighting for, to help them lift themselves up and pursue a future with more white children.
Lastly I say these groups and what I have described here are the folks who pursued gamergate caused the creation of 8chan, the kickoff for the right wing swing and ultimately the memetic warfare that powered Trump's 2016 election in fact all of the top mods on r/the_donald in the beginning were TRP mods and shit posters and they had it stolen from them because kikes fear an empowered white man who dominates his relationships with womenand can avoid/identify poison women.
TL;DR: MGTOW doesn't mean no to marriage or children or women, it means no to a bad deal, most mgtow are just improving themselves to try and get a better deal.
[–] BordelonLoop 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
"we should be pushing an age gap so that right-wing men establish themselves and marry the youngest girls they are legally able to, the goal being to mimic the control our ancestors had over their women by not giving them this time destroy their purity and become poison to their people, it's a successful strategy in Islam and other conquest cultures."