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Fair enough, burden of proof is on the person making the claim, however, you misunderstand; I've no interest in convincing you- I just wanted to hear your opinion on it. Slavery and property are abstract concepts, so I don't think there is any way to prove my opinion or yours even if either of us wanted to.
If you're asking about my opinion on those abstractions, I don't think that it's morally acceptable to treat any sentient life as a property. But in some sense it doesn't really matter what convictions I hold, yours are more accurately aligned with reality. We (assuming you are also gainfully employed) are tax slaves to the state, having effective half a year of the fruit of our labor confiscated through taxation can be reasonably construed as slavery.
So would you please answer the 2nd part of my question?
So property is a function of your ability to keep it? Very practical view, and is true de facto.
In your society are there any groups exempt from slavery (Whites for example)? Would the child stop being property at the age of ascension, or only after the father died?
By the way, you're in good company. In ancient Rome, children were considered the property of their fathers too, until death iirc.
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[–] LurkedForever ago
Fair enough, burden of proof is on the person making the claim, however, you misunderstand; I've no interest in convincing you- I just wanted to hear your opinion on it. Slavery and property are abstract concepts, so I don't think there is any way to prove my opinion or yours even if either of us wanted to.
If you're asking about my opinion on those abstractions, I don't think that it's morally acceptable to treat any sentient life as a property. But in some sense it doesn't really matter what convictions I hold, yours are more accurately aligned with reality. We (assuming you are also gainfully employed) are tax slaves to the state, having effective half a year of the fruit of our labor confiscated through taxation can be reasonably construed as slavery.
So would you please answer the 2nd part of my question?
[–] Niggardly_Jew 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Property exists; humans use their power to exert control over resources.
In my society, children would be the property of their parents, wives the property of their husbands. Other slaves would not be disallowed.
[–] LurkedForever 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Thank you for taking the time to answer.
So property is a function of your ability to keep it? Very practical view, and is true de facto.
In your society are there any groups exempt from slavery (Whites for example)? Would the child stop being property at the age of ascension, or only after the father died?
By the way, you're in good company. In ancient Rome, children were considered the property of their fathers too, until death iirc.