For background I found out about vaping about 8 years ago and got into selling them to the people I sold weed to as a new alternative to cigarettes. I got so far as to making the juice and mixing it up in my kitchen diluting lethal concentrations of liquid nicotine. Seriously, it will absorb through your skin and kill you.
About a year later it caught on wildly and vape shops were popping up everywhere, I was seriously considering opening up a shop when I seen them opening everywhere I lost interest because my interest in it was offering something unique, and shops were now everywhere, so I turned it aside.
Now, from the very start of the vaping scene the argument against it was their are no real clinical trials or studies to determine long term effects. This was immediately combated by the fact that you are literally inhaling water vapor and it couldn't possibly be as harmful to your lungs as the carcinogen filled smoke of cigarettes.
Although I myself decided to stop using and promoting ecigs, I've kept my eye on the scene and taken notice to the advancements of where they are going with this. For 8 years ive kept my ears to the ground because it was a passion of mine at one point, I thought I was going to help change the world, and suddenly it's everywhere.
The whole point i'm rambling on to get to is, I've been watching this evolution for almost a decade, and for almost a decade nobody was dropping dead from vaping until a month ago. Man, have you seen the instagram videos of people engulfing themselves in literal clouds of smoke? For 8 straight years! And now they're suddenly dropping dead? All in a month span? There's something fishy going on here and everyone is just playing right along like sheep.
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[–] Justsomebullshitname ago
I’ve heard the water vapor line over and over again and it’s false. It’s propylene glycol. This is not water. It is a solvent, one used for dissolving organ tissues to leave behind only the connective structures for use in growing organs from stem cells. It has many other uses as well including being the chemical that makes fog machines work.
It’s not water vapor. I doubt that it’s very dangerous but it’s a flat falsehood to call it water.
[–] anon187 ago
Vegtable Glycerin - VG is a humectant and a big part of most peoples lives. Its in your food, drink, shampoo, lotion, cigar humidors!, etc Its used in livestock as well. You can buy it at walmart off the shelf in USP grade.
if VG is dangerous to humans, humans sure havent been acting like it as we have been super consumers of it for some time.
VG - NOT PG(propylene glycol) is normally the sole carrier for nicotine when vaped. sometimes a bit, and i stress a tiny bit of PG is added for "throat hit" and to thin the liquid for certain kinds of delivery. Is PG a solvent? i donno(its not btw) - but its worlds apart from say.. acetone. PG does not act like a solvent in my experience, but im not working on a microscopic level dissolving tissue from stem cells.. thats going to take something very very delicate i imagine - and if what you say is true - maybe thats why they chose PG? i could mix PG with sugar and kool aid and drink it by the glass - all good.
[–] Justsomebullshitname ago (edited ago)
They dissolve entire organs not stem cells. They grow the stem cells on the structural tissue left behind. PG is like 30% of the of the mix in most vaping liquids. Still, water is 0% of the formula. The needed molecules simply are not present. It is false to claim it’s water vapor. It’s a flat lie or pure ignorance to say it’s water. The only water present is in the exhaled vapor because the hydroxyl groups in the glycerin pull it from the tissue in your lungs. It’s still glycerine.