For background I found out about vaping about 8 years ago and got into selling them to the people I sold weed to as a new alternative to cigarettes. I got so far as to making the juice and mixing it up in my kitchen diluting lethal concentrations of liquid nicotine. Seriously, it will absorb through your skin and kill you.
About a year later it caught on wildly and vape shops were popping up everywhere, I was seriously considering opening up a shop when I seen them opening everywhere I lost interest because my interest in it was offering something unique, and shops were now everywhere, so I turned it aside.
Now, from the very start of the vaping scene the argument against it was their are no real clinical trials or studies to determine long term effects. This was immediately combated by the fact that you are literally inhaling water vapor and it couldn't possibly be as harmful to your lungs as the carcinogen filled smoke of cigarettes.
Although I myself decided to stop using and promoting ecigs, I've kept my eye on the scene and taken notice to the advancements of where they are going with this. For 8 years ive kept my ears to the ground because it was a passion of mine at one point, I thought I was going to help change the world, and suddenly it's everywhere.
The whole point i'm rambling on to get to is, I've been watching this evolution for almost a decade, and for almost a decade nobody was dropping dead from vaping until a month ago. Man, have you seen the instagram videos of people engulfing themselves in literal clouds of smoke? For 8 straight years! And now they're suddenly dropping dead? All in a month span? There's something fishy going on here and everyone is just playing right along like sheep.
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[–] 20744290? 0 points 13 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago
Wrong. Many of them contain many other things that you wind up inhaling. Not saying they are as bad as cigarettes but it isn't just water vapor. Most contain water, flavor (which could be a lot of different things) and propylene glycol or vegetable glycerin.
[–] downvoatmachine 1 point 4 points 5 points (+5|-1) ago
for someone who claims to have been mixing their own fluids OP is ignorant on what is in them.... propylene glycol vegetable glycerin nicotine and flavorinzzz is a much more accurate answer. the PG is a primary ingredient in the pet safe radiator fluid, it's FDA approved for use as a heat transfer fluid and you will find it as an ingredient if you start reading food packages. the VG is whatever the flavorinzzz I question because there are so many options and it's hard to speak for them all.
[–] Creggieb 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
This is true. In addition the media labels all four of the following activities as vaping
Boiling thc from plant matter using a convection vaporizer like the Volcano
Boiling propylene glycol, vegetable glycerin, candy flavorings and nicotine
Boiling thc distillate thinned with terpenes
Boiling vegetable glycerin , propylene glycol and emulsified thc distillate
If anyone is dying, it will be distillate cartridges thinned with rubbish terpenes, and sold in an area where pot is illegal.
[–] Platypus43 [S] ago (edited ago)
I used vegetable glycol (vg) because it's not nearly as harsh as pg, but some prefer the "more like a drag from a cigarette" feel of pg, a lot use a blend of each, but a juice with a 100% pg base is in my opinion not enjoyable. I noticed that certain flavors would produce a harsher hit too. Nigger, you can call me out for whatever reason you think is clever, but my summation of my story is what it is, so suck a dick.
[–] RedWolfTheAnimal 2 points 1 point 3 points (+3|-2) ago
propelene glycol and vegetable glycerine are USDA certified products safe for human consumption. PG actually fights infections in the lungs.
The shit is HARMLESS. HARMLESS.
[–] 20745385? 1 point 3 points 4 points (+4|-1) ago (edited ago)
Safe for consumption in your stomach. So is steak, but try breathing it dumbass.
EDIT: And your PG fights infections was from one 1942 study in mice where they sprayed them with PG and then the flu and they lived. There was no follow up study as to if it was bad to inhale. I mean, peroxide would probably kill infection in your lungs but inhaling it would be fucking terrible.
[–] ForTheUltimate ago
Need ot invent the eChad cig: loaded with retro-viruses.
will make you chad or some mushroom, what the hell might as well try it you degenerate.
[–] Platypus43 [S] 2 points -2 points 0 points (+0|-2) ago
Oh gee! Thanks, I didn't know that. I only MADE THE GOD DAMN JUICE!!!!!!