That’s exactly the same thing most normies think when they see words like nigger or kike, the information is either false or irrelevant because it’s coming from a racist.
Due to nearly 50 years of heavy and constant brainwashing, in most people’s minds being a racist or even associating with one is the worst possible sin you could commit. People have a deep visceral reaction and mentally switch off when confronted with blatant racism.
I’m not saying don’t be racist, I often discuss black criminality and low IQ, the Jewish domination of most of the worlds major institutions, their push to ruin western civilisation through migration, destroying the traditional family unit, fucked up gay/tranny pushing etc etc etc
I don’t even think it’s racist, it’s just facts.
If it’s not racist to say blacks dominate the NBA then the facts highlighted above should also be up for discussion and usually are if you can speak rationally, factually and without obvious hate.
Now Im genuinely curious, how many of you are here because you’re concerned about the state of the world and this is the only site that allows you to discuss it freely and without censorship?
And how many of you are here because you get to use naughty words without getting in trouble?
I was kicked off a forum I had been a frequent contributing member of for over 8 years because I rather pointedly instead of subtly brought up the JQ. That forum is significantly less censored than most others out there.
Voat has the potential to be something big and important but it seems to me like it’s being wasted as most of the discussions are just people being toxic.
I’m all for free speech and I’m also a big believer in choosing your words carefully based on what sort of outcome you want to achieve.
So are we trying to create a safe space for
Edgelords who think it’s witty to say nigger, kike and faggot all the time or is this site one of the few places we can discuss and hopefully educate more people on what’s wrong with the world and potentially bring about some change?
Sadly I’m inclined to believe the 2 are mutually exclusive.
I guess I’m asking what percentage of this site gives a shit about the continuation of western society and the white race and what percentage are here for either shits and giggles or to make white people look bad by throwing around racial slurs that will eventually end up getting the site shut down?
I genuinely believe a significant portion of the nigger lovers (my term for people who get off on saying the word nigger) are either 15 year olds or plants here to discredit the site and its information.
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[–] Sheeitpost 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago (edited ago)
Freedom of speech means having to tolerate speech you think is abhorrent. What's cool about voat is you can say almost anything a person wants. What's not cool is to see how at the expense of free speech, viewpoints everywhere now are in effect being pathologized and conflated to mean things they don't, and drawing conclusions that are inaccurate. Even if you disagree, it's good to debate with people you disagree with. Conflating everyone you disagree with into an easy to oppress category is disingenuous when you think about it, and that is the lefts new strategy going forwards as well as what a lot of people do on voat immediately blaming races for problems when the reality is much more nuanced.
For example, I think the problem in America is the country got subverted by the KGB promoting cultural marxism (Source: Yuri Bezmenov) and after they collapsed and became capitalist, the ivy league that was subverted continued to produce graduates who were influenced by that subversive rhetoric intersecting with the dominant theories there (post-modernism, 3rd wave feminism, relativism, progressivism, etc). There is no single group of people promoting these ideas, so it's uneducated, hateful or disingenuous to blame races individually.
However, the left are not living up to that cognitive standard because now they're trying to conflate everyone who disagrees with them as a potential threat to society, and trying to pathologize any disagreements whatsoever. That is because the overton window is shifted left now because they doubled-down on crazy when Trump won.
If someone were to say every progressive is a secretly a communist who should be thrown in prison, that would be the equivalency. And that would be wrong to say that because the majority of them have no idea what's going on.
So basically the country is unstable. But the economy is great. And they don't care. They think business people are sociopaths anyway.
But yeah, the racism gets tiring.
[–] ATSrefugee [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
exactly!!!
There are whole sections of society who are deliberately isolated from the info that is on this site and I feel that by absorbing just a fraction of it it would get a ball rolling in their heads that would wake up a large percentage of them.
So I’m guessing you’ve been here awhile and regularly take part in discussions, what’s your take on the constant and pointless racism?
Is it an in group thing?
A bunch of morons venting?
An extreme showing of the free speech thing?
Or could my theory that it’s being perpetrated to keep people away hold some water?
[–] Sheeitpost 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
And wanted to add. This is ultimately what is wrong with everything in the world: https://files.catbox.moe/x7waxv.jpg
That's the problem. Everything else is just a symptom.
[–] Sheeitpost 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I did an experiment posting a meme of a black guy saying the left were calling Trump Hitler and now that they want to confiscate guns they are behaving like Hitler. I posted it knowing the frame of a neonazi would not like it because they think he didn't confiscate them (but he only let true believers have them so he did). About 24% downvoted and it got to the front page. So I think around 24% of voat are actually ideologically white supremecists.
I think the constant racism is just because they think that is what is causing the problems in the world but it won't trend in the modern age because it's not true.
Absent free speech, it's possible to create confirmation bias and make people believe things (Twitter, Reddit and Facebook are great examples). With free speech, it's almost inevitable for people to reject leftism because the ideas don't hold up to scrutiny. What's fuckedup is since neither left or right are actually fully correct, the outliers can take on weird or scary belief systems as they work towards some kind of intellectual congruency. Education works in stages basically. Some levels look bad when all it needs is more education for that perspective to no longer be gloomy.
I'm only here because reddit said my account was hacked from r the donald and it was obvious they were singling out influential posters and trying to get them from reactivating their account if they signed up with throwaway email addessses which most people do. They also shadow banned certain topics and then 6 months or so after I left they put them in "quarantine" after some posters were making threats-- which is odd because you don't quarantine a city based upon the actions of a few people. That's how I think of platforms... digital cities. Voat is a very racist city, but it allows speech that would be shadow banned outright by other platforms.
Is racism being spouted to keep others away? I don't think so. People on voat are very honest about what they think and want from what I've seen.