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[–] Arotaes_Forgehammer 5 points 93 points (+98|-5) ago 

This is my favorite bit of code right here.

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[–] OftenTooRude 3 points 41 points (+44|-3) ago  (edited ago)

Personally, I think that's daft. Of course, reddit did something similar and appeared to penalise you in other, worse ways (which I hope voat doesn't), but it's daft nonetheless. Why? Because rewarding and enforcing conformity is stupid. Dissenters will by definition be people who don't like what most others are doing, and this literally says: If you're a dissenter, your opinion is less valid than that of the herd. This also discourages public service. Who's gonna go into the new queue shovelling shit and downvoating all the spam and weaksauce when the reward is that your work is for naught?

This is a stupid idea. If the so-called "meanie" status got used (or got to be used in the future) to punish dissenters in other ways too, that would be even worse.

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[–] kuda 0 points 23 points (+23|-0) ago  (edited ago)

IMHO downvote ratio should be allowed to be higher than upvote until some threshold, and to me 2× - 3× more downvote than upvote is still reasonable. Downvoting trolls is an important contribution.

Edit: my point is: I think voting is all about how we want the comments/thread to be sorted. We all want the ones that actually contribute to the forum to go up, and the crap ones to go down. Pulling the crap down with downvote has the same effect with pushing all the other ones to go up. So, downvoting is not necessarily a mean action, and shouldn't be discouraged by the algorithm. Which part of my logic is wrong?

Edit 2: maybe I'm wrong

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[–] jack_skellington 2 points 14 points (+16|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Actually, I think lumping a "dissenter" in with "assholes who downvote because they're assholes or have a dumb grudge" is just a casualty of war. It's friendly fire that we have to take. There is no way using math to know if a person who is downvoting a lot is doing it out of a sense of duty to improve the site, or it they truly just have a black heart. So, tough shit for them. The dissenter is fucked and this site doesn't get to benefit from that. I'm fine with that loss, as the site is trucking along just fine without it.

However, I do worry about one aspect. That is, Reddit got into a huge amount of trouble for shadowbans. The idea that you'd waste someone's time for days, months, years... that was pretty offensive to the community. And so I'd feel that the same issue could arise here: what if one of these good, dutiful people who is in the "new" queue and downvoting shit spends his/her entire lunch break doing that -- just to help Voat have a nice front page for the day! -- only to have almost all the effort secretly thrown away.

I really hope that if your votes are being discarded, there is a visible warning that your votes are being discarded.

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[–] bryanedds 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Downvoat is not 'dissent' button. That's what Reply is for.

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[–] sniper98g 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Dissenters will by definition be people who don't like what most others are doing, and this literally says: If you're a dissenter, your opinion is less valid than that of the herd.

You seem to be starting from the false asuption that downvoats mean "I disagree". Upvoats are meant to signify that you think a comment is contributing to the discussion, and downvoats are meant to signify that you thing a comment is not contributing to the discussion.

Even if I disagree with a comment, I upvoat it if I think it raises a point I hadn't thought of. Then I write a comment that states why I disagree with them. This code isn't here to stop decent, it's to encourage people to participate in the conversation instead of being lazy and just downvoating anything they disagree with.

It's consistent with voat's general spirit of encouraging participation over just lurking an voating.

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[–] danunit [S] 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

My, that's a lot of CCP you have there haha! Yes it's a neat little function which I assume will be hard at work in the future

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[–] Shmig 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

WHAT?! I never noticed hovering over someones name will show how much CCP they have accumulated. After reading your comment I went to click his name and noticed the feature thank you!

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[–] Soundmotion 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

IsUserCommentVotingMeanie. Lol.

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[–] dragonsarefake 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

My favorite comment ITT.

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[–] astroskag 0 points 33 points (+33|-0) ago  (edited ago)

"You seem to be in a bad mood.. redirecting to /v/aww"

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[–] Baron_Bridges 3 points 20 points (+23|-3) ago 

How about if you downvoat more than 100 times in an hour, your account is deleted and your computer explodes

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[–] shh_coffee 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

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[–] nubbers 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

What if they really deserve the downvotes? exp: the guy reposting popular things from reddit. Hard to find a balance between downvotes and upvotes. You don't want there to become a hivemind, but you don't want unwanted guests.

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[–] Shoggoth 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Just don't be stingy with your upvoats. Just as there are people that really deserve the downvoats there are people that really deserve the upvoats.

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[–] Shmig 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Woo upvoats for everyone!!!

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[–] DjangoRed 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Lol why would you browse the same subs on both reddit and voat. Makes no sense.

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[–] weezkitty 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Because each one has OC not on the other

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[–] weezkitty 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It really shouldn't be hard to keep your upvote ratio above your downvote ratio. I have been averaging 10-15% downvotes for a while. You should upvote good content and not downvote just to downvote and it's easy to stay within the limit

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[–] nubbers 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Was a popular post yesterday. He admitted to it, and made his name about reposts. I haven't contributed because I haven't had anything to contribute, as I am not a creative individual, but if you would prefer we breed another community of individuals with similar traits,cool.

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[–] Danbear 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

How do you check your downvoats given?

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[–] luckypunk 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

On your proflie page under Voting habits

Submissions: This user has upvoted 3132 and downvoted 400 submissions.

Comments: This user has upvoted 722 and downvoted 195 comments.

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[–] Typo 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

There need to be something that flashes on the screen or a badge in the profile when this occurs. Something like the Grinch. Permanent scarlett letter.

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[–] danunit [S] 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I think a downvote grinch popup/badge would be acceptable. Maybe it could change their profile pic to a grinch as well. Or an upside down goat.

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[–] Typo 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

The upside down goat is a really good idea.

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[–] SimonWest 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

I did wonder why it showed how many times it showed you'd upvoated

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[–] Killbit 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Yeah, it would certainly be better if it just showed your ratio, since that is what these privileges are based on. Effectively, we need to not only maintain 100+ CCP, but also an upvoat ratio more than 50%.

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[–] nullninja 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

What about upvoats? I go around handing them out like candy. Will Voat try to stop me from doing that like with the downvoats?

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[–] danunit [S] 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

No, check my account if you want to see a lot of upvotes being handed out :P. The only limitations on upvotes is that you can't exceed your alocated voting limit within 24h. Which if you weren't aware is 100 + (CCP/2) . You also can't vote on the same submission from the same IP on different accounts from what I see.

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