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Change my mind:
These facts (and other such as extreme misrepresentation with Noble prizes) are evident not because there is some Jewish conspiracy because they are generally smart (high IQ), studious, and ambitious, and so naturally they just tend to get ahead which other groups resent.
By numbers alone, there are more of whites and Asians who would far succeed the numbers of Jews for these positions if it were merely about intelligence and ambition.
Oh, and as an example... Harvard Law School used to publish their admission statistics (I don't know if they still do, I have not looked). With all things being equal (LSAT score, undergraduate GPA), a white male would have a 47% admission rate compared to a minority student or female. Now, how many of those 47% go to non-Jewish white men? Considering the high percentage of Jews that are in Harvard Law School, the answer is very few. Now a rich, well-connected non-Jewish kid will have little trouble getting a slot (think a Kennedy or a Bush). But what about an average, lower or middle income white male who is very intelligent and has no connections? He has no shot. If that Irish, Italian, Polish or Russian male was anything else (including female) their life would map out differently. 100% admission acceptance with his scores. But, sorry... you are a white, non-Jewish male... you will not get a chance to better your station in life at Harvard. I would surmise this same scenario plays out at all Ivy League schools, because the statistics bear it out.
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You said "Now, how many of those 47% go to non-Jewish white men?" but I don't see the relevance of this. We would need the data to assess the situation. If it is the case that white jewish men have far better applications than non-jew white men, then of course most of those slots should go to Jews. You need the admission data.
With regard to "If that Irish, Italian, Polish or Russian male was anything else (including female) their life would map out differently." I do not think a jewish male with an equal application to a non-jewish male will have a statistically different acceptance rate. What probably is more likely is that Jews as a group highly value education and so have stronger applications by the time they apply to college due to family pressure, grooming, and mentoring.
That being said, it is definitely the case that some minorities and females are given an advantage, i.e. their applications are statistically worse than many of their rejected counterparts, and that is appalling. I'm completely against that. If I ran a school, there wouldn't even be a box to select your race, gender, etc. But I do not think that is working in the favors of jews in the admission process.
"the statistics bear it out." You need to link me to the statistics to show this.
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[–] nightjar 1 point -1 points 0 points (+0|-1) ago (edited ago)
Change my mind:
These facts (and other such as extreme misrepresentation with Noble prizes) are evident not because there is some Jewish conspiracy because they are generally smart (high IQ), studious, and ambitious, and so naturally they just tend to get ahead which other groups resent.
[–] CrudOMatic 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
TIL that Jewish tribalism and nepotism throughout all these industries is just a phantom.
[–] nightjar 2 points -2 points 0 points (+0|-2) ago
There might be a component of it. Sure. But that doesn't explain most of it.
[–] Warnos44 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
By numbers alone, there are more of whites and Asians who would far succeed the numbers of Jews for these positions if it were merely about intelligence and ambition.
The game is rigged.
[–] nightjar 2 points -2 points 0 points (+0|-2) ago
Can you provide a link to these numbers?
[–] Zongongo ago
The high IQ myth has been busted.
https://voat.co/v/whatever/2937385
[–] nightjar 2 points -2 points 0 points (+0|-2) ago
And the Noble Prize phenomenon?
[–] Richard_Kranium ago
Oh, and as an example... Harvard Law School used to publish their admission statistics (I don't know if they still do, I have not looked). With all things being equal (LSAT score, undergraduate GPA), a white male would have a 47% admission rate compared to a minority student or female. Now, how many of those 47% go to non-Jewish white men? Considering the high percentage of Jews that are in Harvard Law School, the answer is very few. Now a rich, well-connected non-Jewish kid will have little trouble getting a slot (think a Kennedy or a Bush). But what about an average, lower or middle income white male who is very intelligent and has no connections? He has no shot. If that Irish, Italian, Polish or Russian male was anything else (including female) their life would map out differently. 100% admission acceptance with his scores. But, sorry... you are a white, non-Jewish male... you will not get a chance to better your station in life at Harvard. I would surmise this same scenario plays out at all Ivy League schools, because the statistics bear it out.
[–] nightjar 2 points -2 points 0 points (+0|-2) ago (edited ago)
You said "Now, how many of those 47% go to non-Jewish white men?" but I don't see the relevance of this. We would need the data to assess the situation. If it is the case that white jewish men have far better applications than non-jew white men, then of course most of those slots should go to Jews. You need the admission data.
With regard to "If that Irish, Italian, Polish or Russian male was anything else (including female) their life would map out differently." I do not think a jewish male with an equal application to a non-jewish male will have a statistically different acceptance rate. What probably is more likely is that Jews as a group highly value education and so have stronger applications by the time they apply to college due to family pressure, grooming, and mentoring.
That being said, it is definitely the case that some minorities and females are given an advantage, i.e. their applications are statistically worse than many of their rejected counterparts, and that is appalling. I'm completely against that. If I ran a school, there wouldn't even be a box to select your race, gender, etc. But I do not think that is working in the favors of jews in the admission process.
"the statistics bear it out." You need to link me to the statistics to show this.