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[–] draaaak ago  (edited ago)

Why should we assume that if there is a god, or some sort of supernatural, that prayer would have any effect on it or inspire any effect from it? What if that's just not how one should go about interacting with the supernatural? What if prayer is just "doing it wrong"? Prayer not working wouldn't prove that god doesn't exist, because maybe god doesn't care about prayer. Like I said, untestable.

edit: that link makes a lot of assumptions about what god is supposed to be, but if we can't see, or hear, or feel, or taste, or smell, or examine god in any way at all, because god is not within our realm of existence, ie: reality, then how could anyone ever have any concept of what god is supposed to be? How could we ever have any possible concept of god to test against? How could we ever know that any tests we perform would actually be effective tests?

Also, none of these tests produce any actual evidence, they are all theoretical.

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[–] thisistotallynotme ago  (edited ago)

A god we can't see, hear, feel, taste, smell, or measure its effects on us/the earth, is no god.

How do you measure a realm of existence? That seems like a convenient abstraction to avoid pinpointing, which is essentially the "God of the gaps" argument with a shiny new coat of paint. in this case, the gap is "other immeasurable planes of existence. He totally exists there, guise."

But this brings up the bigger issue: Christians and Flat Earthers have the same impossible bar for accepting evidence. For exactly the same reasons.

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[–] draaaak ago  (edited ago)

is no god.

How do you know? Maybe god just likes watching from the sidelines. Maybe god is busy with some other universe. Maybe god is a giant lobster that doesn't care about humans, but only crustaceans.

How do you measure a realm of existence?

The scientific method.

Christians and Flat Earthers have the same impossible bar for accepting evidence.

And so do atheists. None of these people require actual evidence to support their beliefs, only theory.