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[–] Crikes [S] ago 

I would argue that this is a critical point, which is why people need to get over endorsing evil actors immediately. That a message that says we must accept the lesser of two evils has always been used by our owners, and had never served us.

We agree on the importance of the day. You believe this time will be different. I believe this time should and could be different if we do something different, but absolutely won't be otherwise.

If the shills on voat are indicative of the way the masses are feeling, I certainly hope you're right. I'm an old person who has seen the argument made every single time why voting for the lesser of two evils was the way to go, and things have only gotten worse.

Maybe this isn't a delaying tactic, to fool the masses one last time to allow them to pick the carcus clean before collapse. Maybe it is.

Maybe it will require the collapse before people finally stop endorsing the lesser of two evils. If so, that'll be a shame.

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[–] LogiQ ago 

There is an abstract truth to what you say, and there is an argument that can be made that what you advocate would have had a positive effect at past junctures as well as future ones. Therefore, I understand where you are coming from in the abstract. But it's too late for the past and if we want further opportunities to do so in the future, then in the present, this time, the point is to Just. Beat. Dems. Not because the other guys are stalwart exemplars (they aren't), but because the only chance of effecting this wider shift (at least peacefully) is via the plan that gets mocked so often around here.

Perhaps those scoffers are correct and it is all a psyop, an option I still hold to be quite the possibility. But if it is, then we won't have to worry about your way or mine because both options will be closed down. In short, if this is the ultimate bait and switch, the ultimate Lucy pulling away the football from Charlie Brown, then they will win because they have pulled off the greatest demoralizing coup in history. The result then will be either total acquiescence or nihilistic outrage and going out with a bang,

But if Q is real, if the EO that goes into effect in 1/19 is legit and the sealed indictments are real, and all the rest, then in order for that to finish moving into place, the momentum cannot be squelched by the dems taking the house and throwing the endless spanners in the works via that victory. So, for this time alone, the one and true necessary tactic to make the strategy workable without complete societal breakdown is Just. Beat. Dems.