Eliminating the communist/fascists, whether "democrat" or "republican" branding, is of course most necessary... but nothing would send the message more clearly than voting for actual libertarians of "Libertarian", "Constitution", "Independent", or whatever branding.
If you want to start getting an alternative to the sides of the same coin, demand something different. If there's ever been a time more obvious than now that the Republicrats aren't worth supporting (it's actually much worse than 'worth supporting'), I don't know when you people will ever wake up.
There's a lot of circus out there going on.. trying to get you to feel hope & change is a comin around the corner.. just sit back, and trust them. Meanwhile, they're picking the bones of this carcus.
Please remember:
It was the Pauls' who brought up ending, or at least auditing, the Fed.
It was Dr Ron Paul who brought up eliminating the useless, destructive, anti-liberty, enslaving, intel agency known as IRS.
It was Dr Paul who opposed imperial war expansion, and who the troops overwelmingly supported.
It was Dr Paul who opposed Patriot Act & Military Comissions Act. Torture. Spying. Bail outs.. etc. etc. etc..
But most obviously, it's been the bought and paid for communists in the Republican Party who have subverted the president as of late... one more noteably dancing for us so that we might forget that fact, and mistake him for an ally going forward.
The Republican Party denied us Dr Ron Paul, just like Hillary's Democratic Party did to Bernie. They never wanted Trump. Trump is foolishly trying to win over the corrupted, & owned, organization now.
I suppose when you're in prison, you ally yourself with some disgusting people so that you're not alone. Well, when you dance with the devil, the devil don't change.
Power corrupts. Everything that can be corrupted, will be corrupted. The Republicrats have been owned, and playing us, for a long, long, time.
If you can find a person who understands and respects liberty, and the Constitution, in any party, support them first over any brand name. The branding is only there to limit our options, and control the stupid.
Don't be stupid. Don't keep doing the same thing expecting different results. Vote for liberty, as is your duty.
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[–] Crikes [S] ago (edited ago)
The battlefield has been for a long time a stage set by our owners between two non-choices.
Every once in a while someone like Trump, or once, Dr Ron Paul, comes along, and you see how the republicrats deal with them.
If you insist on voting along party lines, know that's going along with your owners' plans for you, it works fine for them, and has never worked for us.
If you could at least try to endorse republicans that haven't already fucking proven to be your enemy, that would be productive (or at least not destructive).
To think in this day and age that one side of the republicrat coin is good, and the other evil, is to be hopelessly lost (which is why it is sold). Maybe you'll get lucky and happen upon good people... or maybe you could consider that we have plenty of republican branded enemies, and try to find some who aren't.
[–] LogiQ ago
You are missing the point. I don't know if you are missing it out of ignorance or out of the desire to deceive and I don't much care.
Right now, it doesn't matter if the battlefield was set up by "my owners," and none of the shit about "every now and then" applies at the moment.
Right now is all that matters. The shit you are on about may be worthy of consideration at a later date, but given the precise nature of the present state of play right now, the ONLY thing that matters is Just. Beat. Dems.
If that doesn't happen and they manage to kill this one shot we got to break the cycle of all the evils you are speaking of, then we are fucked anyway.
This is a historical hinge point. All elections are important, but not all elections are critical. This one is.
Just. Beat. Dems.
[–] Crikes [S] ago
I would argue that this is a critical point, which is why people need to get over endorsing evil actors immediately. That a message that says we must accept the lesser of two evils has always been used by our owners, and had never served us.
We agree on the importance of the day. You believe this time will be different. I believe this time should and could be different if we do something different, but absolutely won't be otherwise.
If the shills on voat are indicative of the way the masses are feeling, I certainly hope you're right. I'm an old person who has seen the argument made every single time why voting for the lesser of two evils was the way to go, and things have only gotten worse.
Maybe this isn't a delaying tactic, to fool the masses one last time to allow them to pick the carcus clean before collapse. Maybe it is.
Maybe it will require the collapse before people finally stop endorsing the lesser of two evils. If so, that'll be a shame.