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[–] 7e62ce85 ago  (edited ago)

I admittedly only took a brief glance, but it's not really selling me.

If you are on board with male authority, banning Islam and economic freedom I would say based on your post history and personality that what is needed to 'sell you' is more results on our part.

I can respect that. Come back later in that case (and keep in mind that some information and results are known only to citizens).

I would need to know what you want to say more.

And, that you seem to be depending exclusively on voat is a huge problem, unless that's changed.

Depends on what you mean. If you are talking about PR it should be noted that we are not a political party and regarding that we are limited to voat for now. Our strategies revolve around self separating from existing society and nations in phases of increasing independence. Hence swaying the popular vote is irrelevant to us.

Now if you mean operationally dependent that is not the case. We have the following backups:

  1. Poal.co - a spiritual Voat clone that we helped pay for with $1000 some months ago. This is our backup forum.
  2. BitMessage is currently being used to manage our citizens, vote and would also be used for coordination if Voat failed.
  3. If the internet is shut off entirely we have agreed to reconnect using the long wave radio frequency of 177 kHz which can reach thousands of kilometers.
  4. I and other leading council members have and will have digital keys with which to identify ourselves with across all mentioned channels.

My suggestion would be to put that money to work somehow

Right now we are scouting private land in the US and EU for us to live and organize on. We should have some before the end of the year.

As for generating more I have plenty of ideas for after we have the land.

The money is currently in crypto currency so it should be worth more in a year or two so investments made now would have to be good to be worth it. There are restrictions in moving it too since we want to stay independent.

some kind of marketing effort to attract others with money

I'm actually meeting with another multi millionaire in a few weeks, but like I said we are mostly focused on getting some initial land first.

Maybe you've designed your first-contact protocols as a filter for potential residents?

Not really I'm just not a good salesman. You are only being automatically "filtered" if the ideas of freedom, family and justice don't appeal to you at all.

From my perspective, some things need to be changed if you hope to make this a reality

We will succeed, the only question is how quickly others join us, but I'm all ears.

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[–] Hand_of_Node ago 

Had saved the tab to reply, but it got purged before I did. This isn't a great time right now, but want to at least respond.

Not really I'm just not a good salesman. You are only being automatically "filtered" if the ideas of freedom, family and justice don't appeal to you at all.

I think this kind of exemplifies the problem I'm perceiving, with my brief look. To pull this off, you or someone will have to be a really good salesman. Not only a leader of a 'country', but someone with enough "sales ability" to form an entirely new country. The filter that's happening is the presentation. It's not a good sign that you seem to be attributing it to beliefs. Anyway, that would be my main criticism from my first exposure.

Will come back to your sub over this weekend to read more about your plan, your operating philosophy, and how you intend to execute this undertaking. To be honest, my curiosity is mainly based on skepticism, at this point, although I'm possibly misunderstanding what you mean by transitioning into a real world state.

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[–] 7e62ce85 ago 

Thank you for the reply.

The filter that's happening is the presentation. It's not a good sign that you seem to be attributing it to beliefs

Oh I know our presentation could be better, a single internet forum presence is pretty bad, but right now we are focused on getting land.

I have some ideas already that I haven't pursued due to the above focus, but I would welcome any input from you.

If you have a flair for PR we could discuss free citizenship and even payments in exchange for your efforts.

what you mean by transitioning into a real world state.

Small online community -> Communities on private property like what the Amish are doing -> Prepare machinery, people and weapons -> Colonize and defend Terra Nullius.

None of these phases will cost our members much effort and each phase will give them more freedom and value.

We won't have to fight some crazy civil war or sway 51% of the electorate.

The Amish and Muslims are the most fertile demographics in the US and we will have male authority like they do. However unlike the Amish we will have technology and unlike the Muslims we won't be inbred warlords. Hence our victory and independence will be a question of time only.

Because I know the difficulties in organizing people politically, I planned for it and created a strategy that requires almost no effort and only a small number of people to begin with.