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[–] slwsnowman40 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

No, if we stop the aide, they'll fight each other, which is a good thing. It would be far cheaper to just drop MOABs on their villages after announcing aide distribution locations than trying to enforce birth control. How do you make them take birth control every day? The only real way to enforce that is through surgery, and that's massively expensive on this type of scale. The cheapest and easiest thing to do is to cut the government aide off and return those trying to claim refugee status instead of letting them stay in the country they ended up in.

My best guess is it could take about 10-15 years for their population problem to sort itself out through disease, war and starvation.


[–] starjello 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

There are forms of birth control that can last for months such as Depo-Provera and Sub-Saharan Africans are very inclined to breed. While it may be ideal to cut all aid off, currently it exists so discussions of birth control and sterilization must be brought up as a necessary part of aid. Making birth control intertwined with the foreign aid discussion will allow progressives to feel moral because they can feed people without burdening African governments and the first world won't be burdened by their surplus. However, if the link between birth control and African aid sours giving food and medicine to Africans then I suppose we'd have to scrap it. Though I don't think it's likely, that response is possible.

My point is while it would be cheaper to simply abandon the Dark Continent, I don't think that would be as easy as convincing people that we can supply medical aid and food aid as long as medical aid includes birth control and food aid is more about farming techniques than handing them food.


[–] slwsnowman40 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

If government aide is stopped, there will be private charities that will try to intervene just like there is now until it gets to the point that it's too dangerous. I don't know where that line is as everybody's level of danger is different, so let's leave this path alone.

Since the aide agreements (or whatever the proper term is) are currently in place, why do you think they would be inclined to change the agreements? They are getting the best end of these deals - they get stuff and don't really have to do/provide anything in return. At this point, it is best to cut the aide off full stop and negotiate new aide agreements from scratch with birth control or sterilization as a stipulation.

Having said all that, I don't trust those governments to administer the birth control; nor do I trust our governments to administer it.