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[–] AlxCapwn 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

One thing that I think helps is to refuse to call leftists liberals. Liberalism has a specific, historical meaning, and these communist/socialist/big government shitbirds are not even close. They stole the label in the mid 20th century, and people are just letting them get away with it. If you’re not familiar with the history of Liberalism, read up on it. Familiarize yourself with Locke and his relationship to the founding documents of the US. Then next time you hear some 20-year-old communist describe itself as a liberal, correct it. If they argue, bury them in facts. It’s a subtle way to make them realize that they’ve been lied to and at now fighting on the evil side.

Edit: one more recommendation. Don’t simply tell them they aren’t liberal. Ask them, “what makes you a liberal?” Or “how do your beliefs fit in with the tradition of liberalism?” Something like that. Ask questions to force them to try to explain things they don’t understand. Force them to demonstrate and confront their own ignorance, then when they’re good and confused, explain the truth. They’ll be more receptive once you force their hand and make it clear that they don’t know what they’re talking about.

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[–] dias17se 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago  (edited ago)

"Im not friend with nazis, i have nigger friends!!!"

Dont waste your time. Go straight to the source, post anti kike material on the internet,let the seed grow.

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[–] AlxCapwn 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

I do have some black friends, and I don't really like Nazis. The friend I wrote about owns a successful tech/finance startup and is earning a high 6-figure income. We were both born relatively poor, in the same neighborhood, and he's worked his ass off to get what he's got today.

Tell me again what you've done that's convinced you that you're better than he is. Congratulations on your white skin. I've got it too, and I love my people. I just wish we didn't have so many hateful, pathetic losers like you to drag around. Being born white is not an accomplishment to be proud of. If you want pride, go fucking earn it. People like you are an embarrassment to the white men who built the modern world.

Even regarding the Jews, there are like a couple million of them in total. If they are actually capable of dominating the world and destroying your culture then you fucking deserve it. Quit crying on the internet, blaming all of your problems on "Jews and Niggers," and go fucking do something worth doing.

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[–] RevBilly 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

They never have done anything good. Where to start.

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[–] truthwoke33 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

If you believe they can be swayed by "facts" and "logic" then I'm afraid I can only say you have much to experience.

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[–] scoopadoop 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Dude objectively failing is literally 100% of liberal commie history. These people are brainwashed and cannot be treated with facts and logic.

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[–] GapingAnus 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I don't think this will work because it is what is being done already and it's not working.

Yuri said it well. Demoralized people don't respond to facts. A lot of people are demoralized. They have no sense of purpose outside of self-gratification and they are stressed out of their minds. There's a reason why antidepressant use is so high and complaints about depression and lethargy is so common.

What I have seen to work is simply to present a better narrative. Be happy. Show that your approach actually works for you. Be respectful of their opinions and present your disagreements not in terms of facts but in terms of moral arguments because that's what they respond to. Sell your side of the story instead of thinking it will sell itself. You shouldn't be trying to argue them into submission but instead showing them how your solutions will likely bring about a better state of being for everyone than their solutions will.

I don't believe as I do because I have somehow dogmatically committed to it. I believe as I do because I genuinely want people to live meaningful and rewarding lives and my approach to that seems to work quite well. That's why I recommend it to others.

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[–] Hall_of_Cost 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I'll need that report on my desk at 0900.

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[–] theshopper 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The only wealth 'gape' I know of is the difference between a high class hooker and a corner girl...

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[–] BeNice 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

This is the worst strategy I've ever heard. Leftists do not care about statistics or historical facts whatsoever. All of their decision making revolves around emotion and perceived injustices. Since many of them believe in things like 'equality', it is nearly impossible for them to understand statistical discrepancies between people unless they attribute it all to oppression/discrimination. Not only that, but they oftentimes have a hard time understanding what 'per capita' means. Their ideology comes from a lifetime of intellectual laziness and/or deception. You aren't going to sway them much in a conversation.

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