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Sorry, I follow biblical principles that allow my life and that of my relationships to be free of all the points you have raised. If these points must be considered, it means you are not of God and you will fall victim to the very things you are explaining. I am sorry that you have gone to the effort of expressing yourself in detail, but unfortuantly to me it just shows me that you are just another cog in the decadence of society. Everything you have said is still formed in selfishness and from it.
There is no contract in marriage. Two become one. Two create one. Two live as one. Two exist as one. Two suffer as one. This is the problem with the MGTOW movement. They are are just an offshoot of any other selfish ideology. There are not two parties anymore. Until people who share the views you have described and I assume they are yours too now, you will suffer from all the things you have listed. I and my kind do not.
That's all fine and well. I truly wish you and your wife the best. Maybe you both are the rare ideal. For the vast majority however, your situation is not possible because of the sheer number of people and the statistical improbability of everything falling into line.
I'm a Christian and I follow biblical principles as well to the best of my ability. I admit that there are differences in my opinions actions and beliefs depending on the circumstances and pray for forgiveness for my faults just the same as I am not perfect by any stretch. However, following biblical principles may not be enough to secure the outcome that one would like. Biblical characters themselves are evident of the same crises ongoing today which shows that the problem is deep-seated.
Marriage is in fact a contract originating as a convenant, a contract with God himself. Two become as one flesh the distinction is clear although the goal of the meaning and its spiritual beauty is still something to be desired.
MGTOW, you're correct, are a response to the society that we currently live in. Very few chose it willingly. For many it took countless heartache and consideration of their predicament and the world at large to come to the conclusion that it was right for them.
I believe that most men want to have a wife and children to provide for with stability and love and a sense of community and camaraderie with their neighbors. The problem becomes when one continually has expectations of other people and are continually let down forcing them to adapt their reasoning to understand that the only one that they are in control of is themselves. Once one comes to that conclusion, creating a situation where you allow yourself to be hurt or disadvantaged is rightly seen as unoptimal. The views that I have are a result of studding and analyzing my own life and what I saw for myself while also taking into account the lives of those around me, trends in the country and in the world at large. Human lives are fairly short so it makes sense to optimize that time and take advantage of every opportunity to make each day better which hopefully makes the world a little better since we're in it.
Again, I'm glad that you lead the life that you claim and I hope that you never have to experience the problems of which I speak. I'm just providing perspective.
We used to be common. As you said, society has changed.
For the vast majority however, your situation is not possible because of the sheer number of people
Yes, because society has changed.
So, are you going to be part of the problem and make it worse by accepting it or part of the solution and fighting against it? MGTOW is the roll over and die option.
although the goal of the meaning and its spiritual beauty is still something to be desired.
You do not understand it properly if this is what you think. Refer to my above.
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[–] AnmanIndustries 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago
Sorry, I follow biblical principles that allow my life and that of my relationships to be free of all the points you have raised. If these points must be considered, it means you are not of God and you will fall victim to the very things you are explaining. I am sorry that you have gone to the effort of expressing yourself in detail, but unfortuantly to me it just shows me that you are just another cog in the decadence of society. Everything you have said is still formed in selfishness and from it.
There is no contract in marriage. Two become one. Two create one. Two live as one. Two exist as one. Two suffer as one. This is the problem with the MGTOW movement. They are are just an offshoot of any other selfish ideology. There are not two parties anymore. Until people who share the views you have described and I assume they are yours too now, you will suffer from all the things you have listed. I and my kind do not.
[–] BlackAdamRedLantern [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
That's all fine and well. I truly wish you and your wife the best. Maybe you both are the rare ideal. For the vast majority however, your situation is not possible because of the sheer number of people and the statistical improbability of everything falling into line.
I'm a Christian and I follow biblical principles as well to the best of my ability. I admit that there are differences in my opinions actions and beliefs depending on the circumstances and pray for forgiveness for my faults just the same as I am not perfect by any stretch. However, following biblical principles may not be enough to secure the outcome that one would like. Biblical characters themselves are evident of the same crises ongoing today which shows that the problem is deep-seated.
Marriage is in fact a contract originating as a convenant, a contract with God himself. Two become as one flesh the distinction is clear although the goal of the meaning and its spiritual beauty is still something to be desired.
MGTOW, you're correct, are a response to the society that we currently live in. Very few chose it willingly. For many it took countless heartache and consideration of their predicament and the world at large to come to the conclusion that it was right for them.
I believe that most men want to have a wife and children to provide for with stability and love and a sense of community and camaraderie with their neighbors. The problem becomes when one continually has expectations of other people and are continually let down forcing them to adapt their reasoning to understand that the only one that they are in control of is themselves. Once one comes to that conclusion, creating a situation where you allow yourself to be hurt or disadvantaged is rightly seen as unoptimal. The views that I have are a result of studding and analyzing my own life and what I saw for myself while also taking into account the lives of those around me, trends in the country and in the world at large. Human lives are fairly short so it makes sense to optimize that time and take advantage of every opportunity to make each day better which hopefully makes the world a little better since we're in it.
Again, I'm glad that you lead the life that you claim and I hope that you never have to experience the problems of which I speak. I'm just providing perspective.
[–] AnmanIndustries 1 point -1 points 0 points (+0|-1) ago
We used to be common. As you said, society has changed.
Yes, because society has changed.
So, are you going to be part of the problem and make it worse by accepting it or part of the solution and fighting against it? MGTOW is the roll over and die option.
You do not understand it properly if this is what you think. Refer to my above.