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[–] 12651244? 6 points 29 points (+35|-6) ago 

We need you a lot more than you need us.

You'd think the userbase would offer him support and respect instead of hatred and accusations if people actually understood this.

Please just remember that we're only human, and some people are only here to tear you down.

It is my view that the dedicated group that has been here for years with the explicit purpose of destroying Voat primarily by attacking the administration have finally managed to succeed by taking advantage of the recent events (Putt's time away from Voat couple with the downtime) in order to turn the non-shill userbase against Putt as well. The effects of this success of theirs will echo through whatever remains of Voat's history if something is not done to actually support Putt through these times.

You are the only goat we all trust

Except the shills have turned half of the userbase against him so that isn't even true anymore. Great encouragement to keep working hard, eh?


[–] MinorLeakage 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago  (edited ago)

We just desperately need a basic level of communication. I'm not sure Putts understands that half of us were actually worried he was renditioned to some CIA prison in Egypt. It might be foolish, but we need to be reassured once and a while that he hasn't been dragged off for re-education...


[–] 12651783? 2 points 8 points (+10|-2) ago 

I agree that having some way of confirming Putt is at least alive and free would be great, based on the delicate nature of running a website like this.


[–] digitalentity1497 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

Very worried in deed.


[–] VicariousJambi [S] 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

It's refreshing that you don't just automatically call everyone shills. I've been called a shill quite a bit today.


[–] 12651427? 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

It's an eternal curse anywhere on the internet where serious topics are discussed. There are paid groups of shills online with the task of divide and conquer, of spreading disinfo and blackpills. We know the JIDF exists. A place like Voat would not possiblity evade their radar; they would be here and they would focus on targetting Voat where it is "weakest" -- the one man holding it all together.

That doesn't mean everyone who attacks Putt is a shill. It doesn't even mean most of them are. It means those who attack him the most frequently and the most passionately might be. They do exist, and their task is to draw non-shills into their ranks to fight for their cause -- the ultimate demise of Voat.


[–] MadWorld 2 points 6 points (+8|-2) ago 

I admit I also thought you were a shill with your recent submission. There has been too many bullshit dramas lately. Sorry mate!


[–] myvoicefromhell 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Shill! Heheheh.... Well, I certainly hope things don't change too drastically here and if there was a way for me to compensate Putt and all the mods who actually do good around here, then I would. But for now, I can only say , "Thank you all, from the bottom of my heart!" Try to keep up the thankless, good work for as long as ya'll can. Some of us appreciate all the effort. Rawk on!


[–] ruck_feddit 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

We usually see eye to eye, Peace. I'm not on the hate Putt bandwagon by any means. However, the 70 year old President can send late night tweets, right? Putt can't do the same? Putt can't say "Hey boys, the server crashed/got beer spilled on it/I'm on heroin. My bad. I'll get back to you later, work sucks right now." ? It's nothing personal, but he hasn't been forthcoming nor transparent about anything in what, a year? Days go by with the site down and there isn't a soul on Earth that can reach him? Not even Atif? It's not like I can fire the guy or he should bend to my will, but I don't have to pretend like all is well when it isn't.


[–] 12653771? 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I get this sentiment. Many good goats share it. I'm sure that if Putt was really concerned about getting those brief messages out once a month, he would. I just think there's some combination of "I don't think this is really necessary" and "I'm too exhausted to really care" which might be staying his hand. There might be other aspects to it as well. We shouldn't pretend we know what's going on in Putt's life. He's said he's burnt out. It can happen to anyone, and when it happens seemingly simple things go undone. I've also talked about the potential of these "simple" comments being more of a commitment due to the backlash and follow-up comments that he would then have to address, lest the brief update be forgotten as irrelevant, since newly introduced questions go unaddressed.

I just think it's more complicated than most people are willing to admit.


[–] Womb_Raider 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

"It is my view that valid criticism is being a paid shill and blindly following someone regardless of their consistency is admirable, normal behavior"

That kind of viewpoint belongs on reddit, dude. You're basically saying we shouldn't be allowed to criticize our leaders. How laughable is that concept?

You think I hate voat's principles, or something? I want this place to flourish. However, with the admins disappearing for two months, Atko quitting, Putt being inconsistent, Voat closing merch, chat features, and even discontinuing donation options... Well, things don't look so good.

And for you to call me a shill for taking issue with all of those things, I find it hard to respect your opinion on the topic.

I get that we should be cheering for him and doing all we can to boost his morale, lest we lose what little we have, but something has to give. He goes from telling us we're on death's doorstep financially to removing the ability to bandaid the wound... do those choices make sense to you?