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[–] PuttItOut 5 points 181 points (+186|-5) ago 

Problem is I don't have the time manage Voat as a business. I'd think that just keeping it up and running (mostly) would satisfy users but people always want more from me.

It's like people think I have nothing but Voat in my life and I'm just flat out neglecting it.

I can't do enough to satisfy this community.

Plus I'm burned out big time. I'd invite anyone to put the amount of hours I've put into Voat over more than THREE YEARS, not ever getting paid for a single one, writing a massive ground breaking framework to give the community a new voice (BY MYSELF), only to be met with an onslaught of criticism and anger and then to treat Voat as a priority.

It's not a conspiracy. It's rather simple.

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[–] MinorLeakage 2 points 76 points (+78|-2) ago 

We are worried about you... The criticism and anger comes mostly from fear that we have already lost you and Voat. There is nothing else like Voat that exists. We need you a lot more than you need us.

I said this recently, but you should br extremely proud of what you have built here. You are actually DOING something to fight back against the evils in this world who want to divide us. Please just remember that we're only human, and some people are only here to tear you down.

We will absolutely support you. We absolutely will do whatever it takew to help you and save this place. You just have to communicate with us. We are scared, and lacking leadership. You are the only goat we all trust.

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[–] 12651244? 6 points 29 points (+35|-6) ago 

We need you a lot more than you need us.

You'd think the userbase would offer him support and respect instead of hatred and accusations if people actually understood this.

Please just remember that we're only human, and some people are only here to tear you down.

It is my view that the dedicated group that has been here for years with the explicit purpose of destroying Voat primarily by attacking the administration have finally managed to succeed by taking advantage of the recent events (Putt's time away from Voat couple with the downtime) in order to turn the non-shill userbase against Putt as well. The effects of this success of theirs will echo through whatever remains of Voat's history if something is not done to actually support Putt through these times.

You are the only goat we all trust

Except the shills have turned half of the userbase against him so that isn't even true anymore. Great encouragement to keep working hard, eh?

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[–] digitalentity1497 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Ditto, man.

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[–] MadWorld 4 points 0 points (+4|-4) ago  (edited ago)

I think you should make a few comments to argue with the concern trolls, letting other users see through their bullshit dramas.

Edit: I meant when concern trolls post new submissions.

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[–] VicariousJambi [S] 1 points 21 points (+22|-1) ago 

Well I can't say I was really expecting a reply from the man himself, so thanks for that.

Problem is I don't have the time manage Voat as a business.

I'm well aware you have a full time job. I'm not really asking for anything other than a monthly update like you said you wanted to do. And a way to donate I guess.

I'd think that just keeping it up and running (mostly) would satisfy users but people always want more from me

Again, I'm just looking for updates, even it's just "sorry I haven't been able to do much this month, works been killing me" I don't know whats going on with my favorite website. We're still not sure about funds, and quite frankly this is a very controversial website that a lot of people would love to be shut down. We all know money talks, and if I could help out with that I would. I know you said that you wanted to add some way for us to donate, and I'd love to do that.

Plus I'm burned out big time.

I realize that you put a lot of your free time into this website. If there was anything I could do to help I would, but I don't know anything about programming and all of that. I know a very long time ago I designed some little stainless steel sheet metal keychains, and another user was going to cut/sell them, but that never went anywhere unfortunately.

not ever getting paid for a single one

You know we're willing to pay you. I myself wanted to buy some shirts and donate but I think I missed out when the credit card operator was still up. I'd like to donate but theres no real option to.

Cheers

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[–] Rotteuxx 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Meh, I don't see it as the proposal went nowhere but just got placed on the back burner. Putt was very interested before the payment processor shat on us.

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[–] Le_Squish 2 points 16 points (+18|-2) ago 

Dearest lovely, Putt,

For whatever reason, at this point in history, instead of just a guy that writes code, you have become one man holding back the darkness. You didn't ask for this burden and it is honestly more than most people can bare.

But what you do is not for naught. They attack you because they know they cannot win unless they convince you to stop playing.

There are few men left with courage and principles. I want to see you get through this.

Most importantly, we can't help your burden if you never tell us what you need and how much it cost. If you asked it of us, we would send you on a vacation today. Bots could automate announcements and updates. We could research payment processors for you. You could even give us a proper scolding for being shitheads if that is what you need.

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[–] 12652763? 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

Great comment. We all want to help Putt in this most crucial of fights, but we need to know how.

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[–] Marou 2 points 16 points (+18|-2) ago 

I wish we could just put up a Patreon or something and get you a salary. I'd paypig a few $$ a month.

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[–] 12650539? 7 points 14 points (+21|-7) ago 

But saying you're going to do something (something this simple) and then just not doing it rubs me the wrong way.

Shortly after that announcement preview testing began, which kept Putt thoroughly occupied for several months. In addition to that, Voat was hit with its largest DDOS attack ever, which lasted months. That was also a major distraction. The Port work plus the DDOS threw off whatever plans Putt had for regular updates, I suspect. SHTF, in other words. I wouldn't be any more worked up about the GOAT statements stopping than I would be for anything else. It all boils down to time.

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[–] VicariousJambi [S] 4 points 12 points (+16|-4) ago 

And it takes 5 mins to say "hey guys I'm alive and well how are you?"

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[–] IGiveZeroFucks 3 points 10 points (+13|-3) ago 

Apparently he is literally the busiest man in the world and 5 minutes is too much time to spare. Also his keyboard broke and every store in town has been out of stock for months.

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[–] 12650572? 6 points 4 points (+10|-6) ago 

What do you think this is? Or must it be an announcement, so hundreds of people can hound him about making an announcement and saying nothing at all?

None of the people who think "if only he would just do this" understand that there is no just anything with respect to running this website.

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[–] NotHereForPizza 3 points 8 points (+11|-3) ago 

I suspect.

Is THE problem here. You don't actually know anything, you're just making unsubstantiated claims. Have you ever been in direct contact with Putt? Even then, what reason do we have to believe at this point, that putt's personality hasn't this whole time been a ruse, and atko stepped up to simply keep the goats in the fence, if you will.

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[–] 12651035? 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

You admit that I am only speculating but then accuse me of making unsubstantiated claims. All knowledge claims I make I can back up with evidence. Everything else is speculation, and is often stated as such.

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[–] 1HepCat 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Agreed. People have intentions that go unfulfilled all the time, especially after nobody complains the first 10 months. ~"Oops I forgot about those GOAT updates I said I was going to do. Oh well, doesn't seem like anyone missed 'em anyway."

The silence around the recent outage is certainly more interesting but even then the simplest explanation is that Putt has his payout and can hardly be bothered to pay attention to the site any longer. What are you gonna do? Sue WhoisGuard in a Panamanian court over your Bitcoin donation? The site is still technically running 90% of the year.

EDIT: Putt apparently doesn't draw a well earned salary from voat. That's a pretty explanatory factor for why he might feel drained by voat rather than energized. In retrospect, this comment comes off as less appreciative than it should, although, I was cognizant of my own set of under-completed projects and meant pretty much the same thing as being burnt out.

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[–] 12651153? 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

especially after nobody complains the first 10 months. ~"Oops I forgot about those GOAT updates I said I was going to do. Oh well, doesn't seem like anyone missed 'em anyway."

I really love it when I run into people who still have basic competence. Thank you, 1HepCat, thank you for that.

The silence around the recent outage is certainly more interesting

Any number of explanations could be applied to this. All we can do is speculate, and speculating and asking questions is all fine. It's when people decide to come to conclusions and make knowledge claims that things get messy. You see userbases divided and myths accepted as facts. All we can do is wait and see, and if we have to wait too long, individuals can choose to leave.

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[–] 12651127? 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago  (edited ago)

The logic and reasoning you're putting forth is simply not a good enough excuse. Period. That you seem to be satisfied with so little substance is an oddity in and of itself

What about my comments gives you the impression I'm satisfied? I'm certainly not pleased that I have to continuously explain basic administrative processes to adults because they have no memory.

The rest of your comment concerns itself with the "muh five minutes" "argument", to which I will point you here

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[–] PuttitoutIsGone 3 points 2 points (+5|-3) ago  (edited ago)

Yup....if you try to look further into it...you're an idiot or a shill.

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[–] door_ 5 points 13 points (+18|-5) ago  (edited ago)

I really just wish that he'd give us updates on this whole fiasco. Whether it's a general overview of what happened, or what he's currently up to... Just tell us something, y'know?

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[–] IGiveZeroFucks 2 points 12 points (+14|-2) ago 

Apparently he's "too busy" to take 5 minutes and type up a short paragraph about why voat crashed and why he disappeared for weeks.

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[–] firex726 2 points 7 points (+9|-2) ago 

Paragraph?

We have a twitter account all he had to do was make a single tweet so we know hes aware.

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[–] RedditisPropaganda31 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Bitcoin ballin' yo! : P

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[–] SaneGoatiSwear 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

@VicariousJambi

yeah, @puttitout openly repeatedly lies to all goats. this has been established for over a year.

- "i won't ban anyone more until i explain these new bans." continues banning 100 more user accounts without ever explaining.

to now. @puttitout still lying.

oh and subverse transfers? yeah never. oh and donations and ads?? how about chat? nope, just a magic port that never happens, and a dev that won't grow the team, become transparent again, etc.

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[–] VicariousJambi [S] 6 points 4 points (+10|-6) ago 

Yeah no kidding. Tell us if his wife died and he hasn't been able to do a lot, or hell, even if he's just been lazy. The only thing that I can thing of is that he's either like, the most neurotic person about not doing anything at all unless it's 100% right, or "someone" wants to keep us on here, but divided and bickering. Contained and pre occupied.

Once a month updates, like he said he was gonna do, isn't hard. Hell paying my rent is harder.

Time will tell what happens I guess.

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[–] IGiveZeroFucks 2 points 10 points (+12|-2) ago 

"Wife dead. A lot going on. Sorry guys."

OR

"Sorry guys I just don't give a shit anymore. Go away."

Something like that would save this community a lot of grief and confusion.

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[–] FreeBreivik 4 points 4 points (+8|-4) ago 

the most neurotic person about not doing anything at all unless it's 100% right

Actually I think that's the most likely explanation.

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[–] tendiesonfloor 5 points 10 points (+15|-5) ago  (edited ago)

@9-11 Look at all the 'nothing to see here, stop asking questions, please continue posting' shills. This one didn't get 1/0/0 locked, and it's packed with comments telling everybody to just stop asking questions and accept, blindly that's nothing wrong.

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[–] patriot_biz 3 points 2 points (+5|-3) ago 

Or you fucktards are malignant anti-vaxers chasing a squirrel up the wrong tree. Have any proof? No. Will this make any difference? No. Is this going anywhere? No.

Do you cats have a whole host of wild theories? Yes, and you won't shut up about it. Why don't you guys get over yourselves? If there were a conspiracy afoot, you'd be the last ones qualified to track it down.

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[–] IGiveZeroFucks 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago 

Totally nothing weird about a controversial social media site crashing for days without explanation while the only admin disappears for weeks also without explanation. Just keep posting.

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[–] 9-11 9 points 1 points (+10|-9) ago 

Such a coincidence isn't it?

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[–] TeranNotTerran 2 points 6 points (+8|-2) ago 

@PuttItOut, why aren't we seeing GOAT statements on the first like you said you would?

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[–] firex726 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Well we do still have a few hours left but if he cared he could have easily made a quick update post instead of waiting over a week.

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[–] TeranNotTerran 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

A few hours left till what? When was the last GOAT anouncement?

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[–] CheeseboogersGhost 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Goats are on a rampage! https://kek.gg/i/4tmZhP.jpg

Here's Putts balls: https://kek.gg/i/3xxr5M.png

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[–] Bob_Ross_Hair 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

“Go away, batin’!” - Putt

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[–] Chiefpacman 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Putt puttering out on goals for this website isn’t a new trend.

Sub transfer requests, user counters being broken, ect. Remember when he rolled out voat polls? The voat votes thing, he didn’t follow up at all. He didn’t even answer any questions in the thread he posted about it. It was dead on arrival.

I’m not one of these people saying we should hang putt, or mutiny or something. He is a good guy. He has done great leading this site, since Atko stepped down. But he is doing a worse job now. He just isn’t active enough.

It’s his site and ultimately his decision. Voat isn’t a democracy. We need him to devote more time to this, maybe we can entice him by offering payment for what he does. If not that, then maybe it’s time for him to enter into his godfather years with atko.

And idea I floated before: he chooses a successor, and hangs out in the background. He will be the Augustus to this new Ceasar(s), a senior role.

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[–] daskapitalist 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I really wish he'd put up a patreon account or a "Donate $$ to pay me to run this site". I'd pony up in a heartbeat if he asked.

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[–] Chiefpacman 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Well if he would reply maybe he could start one!

Oh well. Gotta appreciation him not taking money, but if it could mean he could help voat more often...

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[–] digitalentity1497 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I have paid in the past and I'm willing to pay more to keep Voat active. Maybe some fraction of Voat can be managed by his most trusted. To me it seems the most logical way to help out.

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