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[–] Professor_de_la_Paz 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Then the education system.

That's the first thing I'd dismantle.

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[–] R34p_Th3_Wh0r1w1nd 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I agree. The education system is destroying the country from the inside out. Kids know very little about the country, it's foundations, it's values. When America allows it's kids to skip class and protest against the constitution on the taxpayers dollar, something is very wrong. These kids can be taught better. If not at home, at school.

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[–] Ocelot [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The problem is that it can't be dismantled without massive political power, like the power of two of the three branches combined. If we were united, there would be few problems undertaking such large projects, but as long as we are divided it will be difficult.

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[–] Professor_de_la_Paz 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I lived in a town with a great school system. There was some talk about changes to the curriculum that angered the parents. They organized and shut that crap down hard. I remember talking talk a neighbor about it and she said something like, "we have to do this ourselves. We can't rely on the state to take care of our kids." That is exactly what needs to happen across the country. Organize from the ground up.

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[–] dontforgetaboutevil 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You will have to cool it with the hate if you want more whites to join you. Dial back the racism.

Fact is most of you other white people are strangers to me. I dont owe you and I dont know you. But the people in my life who have been good to me? I owe them everything. Not all of those good people from my past and in my present are white. Many of them are black or asian or hispanic. I owe those good people's so much more than I owe any of you white strangers. Do not expect me to abandon my loyalty to people who have earned it. That goes against the core of my being and it will not never happen.

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[–] WickedVocalist 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I agree with you also here on that one.. OP is racist and a shit disturber, 9/10 a LDS white ANTIFA/AltRight SRS shareblue shill or a straight Anti Semite ISIS sandfucker trashbagger.

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[–] elitch2 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

DIsmantle the (((education))) system, get rid of the welfare state.

As long as these two things exist, we are fucked.

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[–] Ocelot [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That's true, but I fear that the education system can't be dismantled without white unity. That's why I'm trying to think of an unlikely but plausible solution.

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[–] WickedVocalist 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

How about a united America of every kind sans supremacists like yourself?

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[–] Ocelot [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

If you want the country to turn into Brazil, go right ahead with your pipe dream.

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[–] CheeseboogersGhost 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

NAME. THE. JEW.

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[–] Ocelot [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Old Christianity may have been a potential savior. I'm of the mind, however, that once subverted, almost no ideal can return to its original form. Christianity used to be the sword and shield of Europe, but was that because of Christianity itself, or simply because European will was wearing its clothes? Think of today's Christianity -- every church you enter preaches tolerance of the degenerate, African outreach, idealism without a grounding force (that being ethnicity and identity, not just "be nice to everybody because nobody is different from you!") and so forth. The Christians have lost the culture war, and I don't know if it's possible for anti-theistic people to return to the religion they once gave up.

I understand why so many wish to return to European Paganism. Its tenants are simpler and more obvious, making it more difficult to subvert. It is inherently European. It does not fixate on self-flagellation (all are sinners because all are weak) but rather encourages men to always become greater than their current selves and to deliver furious punishment to one's enemies.

I think that Christianity's mythos is too cryptic and complex. It's been ages since I've read the Bible (unfortunately), but there are plenty of contradictions in the text. It is too open to interpretation, and I think these factors make it easy to subvert.

I have nothing against Christianity or Christians. The culture born of Christianity is one of the greatest chapters in European history. I just wonder whether or not the shambling corpse it has become can be restored to greatness or should be laid to rest.

Regardless of (or maybe because of) all this, the difficulty of basing the movement on religion makes me believe that religion should take the backseat. If saving our people serves God, and turning down the volume on religion accomplishes that, then it would certainly be in your interests.

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[–] clamhurt_legbeard 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago  (edited ago)

As an aside: how do you anonymize posts on Voat? The "is anonymized?" button is grayed-out.

It has to be enabled in the subverse options by the owner.

Or do you think the only way to save our country and our people is to involve minorities as well?

Half of America is minorities. I think trying to divide America in half is exactly what the globalists want. 150 million people are MUCH easier to control than 300 million.

I also think there's no way you could unite even half of America in a white bloc, because many whites would resist joining any racially identified group. (Like you say, the education system has been controlled for decades and ensured millions feel this way).

The best hope for America is patriotism. We support and defend the ideals of America. Ideals like independence, freedom, responsibility, innovation, hard work, bettering our lives for ourselves and our family.

  • We take responsiblity for looking after ourselves, we don't ask for handouts

  • We look to build new things to help ourselves and those around us

  • We work hard because we control what we get out of life

  • We pass what we create on to the next generation, because we are not selfish

We need to live our lives to these ideals. "America" is not white people. America is people living up to the ideals of our country was built upon. A person who fails to uphold these ideals is destroying America, regardless of race.

To fix the balkanization of Americans, we need to become great Americans, starting with ourselves.

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[–] Ocelot [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I used to agree, but I'm not so sure I do anymore.

We need to live our lives to these ideals. "America" is not white people. America is people living up to the ideals of our country was built upon.

Our country was founded with white men prominently in the leading role. Nobody had even a hint of wishing to grant other races the same role until much later in our short history. Furthermore, American ideals are inherently white ideals, and ideals are born of culture which is born of race and nationality. I agree with you in theory, but in reality it does not work like that because the other peoples in this world are simply not the same as us and the same culture will never emerge from their collective being. America is indeed made of the ideals upon which it was built, but that does make it a white nation since the ideals are inherently European in nature.

I agree that they obviously want us divided, but we shouldn't sacrifice our identity simply because it can prove to be inconvenient. Moreover, whites can still cooperate with other races while retaining white identity. This happened many times throughout history. So I do not think that the answer is to throw away who we physically and culturally are in favor of theory and ideals.

Edit: extra "e" in "theory"

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[–] clamhurt_legbeard 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I want to point out a subtle difference. I said America is not white people, but you interpreted that as me saying we're not a white nation.

What I meant was that just because some particular person in America is white doesn't mean they are automatically doing what's right for America, or being good Americans, or embodying or ideals.

This country was absolutely founded by white people and white culture, but people today have to live up to those same principles of our founders, or they're no better than any foreigner undermining our way of life.

I do not think that the answer is to throw away who we physically and culturally are in favor of theorey and ideals.

I absolutely agree, I am specifically saying we need to live up to our founders and their culture - it's what made us who we are today.

Moreover, whites can still cooperate with other races while retaining white identity.

This is correct. We need to keep who we are and work with people, not be turned against others in self-destructive conflict, or let ourselves be overrun.