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[–] NeedleStack 1 points 23 points (+24|-1) ago 

Thanks! I hope you don't mind that I may copy and paste most of your text should I too find such shills/spammers and want to make a public post.

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[–] dooob 4 points 11 points (+15|-4) ago  (edited ago)

@PuttitOut needs to appoint someone to be the official emergency shill hunter.

Edit: added "emergency", to clarify: whoever would get that job would also have a very valuable account thus that position should have an end date.

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[–] NeedleStack 4 points 17 points (+21|-4) ago  (edited ago)

This gets into serious territory. Do we want lists? Probably not. That reeks of McCarthyism (except we actually would have proof of their shilling whereas McCarthy didn't always have proof). And one man's shill is another man's 'activist'. Know what I mean? I think we have to be thoughtful about this. Edit: Let me just say, it's obvious that the alts OP listed are full of shit shills (probably come fresh from reddit to infiltrate us as I've seen them want to do for a while).

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[–] BUTTHOLE__EMPRESS 3 points 2 points (+5|-3) ago 

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[–] toobaditworks 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

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[–] BaitSauce 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

And call this account Caesar.

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[–] Fambida 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

I hope you won't be copying his retarded idea to fuck over VPN users by limiting the number of accounts able to use an IP.

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[–] SimonWest 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Why do you need more than one.

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[–] sguevar [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Be my guest.

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[–] fusir 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

They are also calling non-shill shills to shut down anyone who points out their shillish ways.

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[–] IGiveZeroFucks 2 points 13 points (+15|-2) ago 

@Tallest_Skil is a prime example.

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[–] uvulectomy 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

We know you're not a shill, though. You're just a degenerate DeepFaggot.

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[–] chmod 3 points 10 points (+13|-3) ago 

Welcome to free speech. You get the bad with the good.

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[–] KosherHiveKicker 1 points 14 points (+15|-1) ago  (edited ago)

There is a difference here.

  • 1 person using 1 account posting/voating uncensored is Free Speech.

  • 1 person using 30 accounts posting/voating to intentionally downvoating others is Jewddit-Level Nigger-Faggotry.

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[–] sguevar [S] 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

I don't see why having just 1 account limits your free speech.

But I understand the point you are trying to make.

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[–] BB-3 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

It limits your anonymity. If you're forced to only use one account, it makes it much more difficult to post in both your hometown subverse and in more controversial subs without seriously risking doxxing yourself.

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[–] no-hurry-no-pause 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Welcome to free speech. You get the bad with the good.

The point of giving free speech to somebody is not to have him (ab)use free speech to advocate ending free speech for others.

Free speech should be only granted to proponents of free speech, opponents of free speech should be hunted down like rabid dogs.

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[–] un1ty 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

McReddit tactics to be sure.

Fuck these <bots> or <paid opposition>.

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[–] bb22 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

There should be some limit like 2 or 3 accounts per individual IP address at a time or else banned for vote farming.

2 or 3 accounts = husband and wife in a single household, husband and wife with a kid. dad and two sons. I don't think that's too unreasonable as a limit.

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[–] Somecowsspeakhuman 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

There is, or was at least. I've gone through a few burner accounts because fuck doxxing, and it can be a pain to delete an old account and start a new one.

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[–] captainstrange 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

It's also a known discrediting technique.

  1. Target a user you want to discredit

  2. Create obvious alts of their account

  3. Mimic that user but post shit that discredits them

  4. Use an alt to post something to the effect of 'hey guys sguevar, sguevar1, sguevar2, sguevarN and his thousand other alts are all shills!'

  5. Mission accomplished. The individual now looks like a shill with dozens of alts.

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[–] sguevar [S] 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago  (edited ago)

You are more than welcome to go ahead and read the comments I have exchanged with that user and including the one on which he admits having up to 10 accounts. But you can keep your reasoning if it makes you feel better about yourself, for that I couldn't care less.

Here are the posts and you can dig into the comments to find it:

https://voat.co/v/whatever/2475017 https://voat.co/v/whatever/2474853 https://voat.co/v/news/2474906

[ [–] NotTheShapeOfMyHear3 -7 points (+0|-7) 11.7 hours ago

sguevar we have been chatting for a bit. I have to use alts because voat only allows so many comments per so many hours.

My alts go all the way up to 9.]

That one is the one from the first link

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[–] captainstrange 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

But you can keep your reasoning if it makes you feel better about yourself,

I see you seemed to have taken what I wrote as some of sort attack against you, which is understandable, heads up though, it wasn't. Just be aware if you are the target of some shill then this is one of the tactics they may use against you.

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[–] Fambida 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

I, like many, use a VPN to protect my privacy, and your suggestion would fuck all of us.

It would also lead to more doxxing when people click on links from people harvesting their IP addresses.

This would be bad for Voat and you should feel bad, faggot.

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[–] TheMatrix 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This. Please read his comment again.

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[–] sguevar [S] 3 points 1 points (+4|-3) ago 

I don't to be honest. Do you have multiple accounts like the one I reported?

Creating up to 10 accounts to be able to farm is not the way to go.

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[–] Fambida 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

No, I don't have multiple accounts. VPNs are for far more than gaming voat, and banning them will cause more harm than not.

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[–] thantik 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

This is why I suggested implementing a supercookie that would simply track who logs in on the same machine. It's very difficult to get rid of (though not impossible) and would at least make tracking these idiots on the voat.co domain possible. It's immune to VPN and IP changes, etc.

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[–] chags 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Just using private browsing won't make it ineffective?

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[–] fusir 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

User-agent. Each one is almost unique.

It's not good enough to be certain two people are the same but if you see a lot of votes with one user agent and its really similar voting behavior then you know what's happening.

So then they have to shed their ip, their cookies, thier sign-in, and their user-agent and keep each one sanitized from the other.

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[–] BrutusMaximus 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago 

5 comments and no one bothers to upvoat, common guys not everyone reads all/new

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[–] NeedleStack 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

I upvoated. It's a caching issue. The votes will get revealed soon.

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[–] Samsquamch 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Voat has always often been delayed in showing upvoats. Don't get your panties in a twist over it, this post has 11 if you look at it from the list of submissions, but before clicking on it.

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[–] BrutusMaximus 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

My bad, panties have now been untwisted.

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[–] Br0sephusMaximus 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Cool name

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[–] BrutusMaximus 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

My brother from another mother

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[–] sguevar [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

For some reason i show on my postings +17 when I open here it says +1 and 0 views... this is the 2nd post I do here in Whatever that this happens.

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