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[–] ElementalPee 27 points 155 points (+182|-27) ago  (edited ago)

Except for the downvote sniping and hints of unnatural community manipulation, I'm theoretically all for this. One of the highlights of voat for me was when the Bernie guys and Trump guys were split about evenly but we were all anti establishment and wanted nothing to do with Clinton. I'm sure a lot of folks here would love a platform to debate the left where they wouldn't get permabanned. Problem is, the left can't debate. They can call you names. They can say a buzzword. They can ban. But they straight can not debate. They're cowards. I mean, even this seems like some kind of scheming attempt to seize control. All they have to do is have some balls and show up and make their case.

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[–] Decidueye 1 points 76 points (+77|-1) ago 

That's right. One of their sub goals is literally creating a safe space.

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[–] HomerChimpson 0 points 34 points (+34|-0) ago 

We've been through it before. It never works here.

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[–] Bobtheviolent 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

I just bailed on reddit I hope to God that doesn't happen. I would rather deal with hateful trolls than banhammer due to a different opinion

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[–] daskapitalist 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

I'm getting close to 80k SCP. I fear no downvotes. Bring altetnative viewpoints, and we will enjoy the growth and productive discussion.

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[–] BLOODandHONOUR [S] 0 points 74 points (+74|-0) ago 

Yes, they haven't ever had the opportunity to debate. Any opposition is removed and banned or hidden. To them it is absolutely ridiculous to ever see the alternative of their opinion or belief because to them- in their own little world- the truth is always present.

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[–] Samsquamch 0 points 55 points (+55|-0) ago 

Which is why they're discussing mass down voting the content they don't like, instead of mass upvoting the content they do like.

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[–] HungryCrow 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

I don't see it the same way. To the modern left anyone that disagrees with them is evil and hateful. They don't debate, they condemn. Debating them is absolutely pointless, they're cult members.
It used to frustrate me but I'm confident of a better future so now the left amuses me.

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[–] Thisismyvoatusername 4 points 27 points (+31|-4) ago 

I really miss how Voat was when I joined. It was much more of a debate site. The predominant ideological outlook of users was probably right of center libertarians, but there were people of many different views. Upvotes were given for good vigorous debate and downvotes really only went to illegal content or true spam.

Sadly, too many people in the various reddifugee waves brought their reddit voting behavior with them and this site suffered as a result. I don’t know that a large amount of contrary downvoting really fixes the site, though.

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[–] 9-11 3 points 12 points (+15|-3) ago 

Leftists can't debate. They downvoat aka censor especially if you blow their argument out of the water. Leftist ideas in general cannot become wide spread in the populace without suppression of the right/conservatism...which is what sprung up all the white guilt and self hatred we see in society today.

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[–] silverhare 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I joined Whoaverse (now Voat) two months after it opened in 2014. I rarely post or comment but as someone with an interest in online community development since my days on The Well in the 90s, it's been interesting to watch Voat evolve with the various waves of migrations from reddit.

10 years ago, you could have a conversation on reddit with people with different viewpoints. People say that the Digg exodus killed reddit but it had already gone downhill before that. It took even less time for conversations to dissolve here. I'll be interested to watch what happens here over the next 6-8 months with the fracturing of reddit's firearms community.

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[–] Sk8rminion 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

If you really want debate the platform you want is: kialo

Honestly, I wish voat would adapt some of their ideas instead of statically sticking with the format that is bringing reddit to its knees.

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[–] Caffeinewhore22 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Is the upvote/down vote different than reddit should be? I was always under the impression that ups and downs were supposed to be used to show that something is either correct factually, or in the case of meme and non fact related things to show that it was enjoyed.

Reddit refugee who doesn't want a new reddit safespace

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[–] MillstoneNecklace 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

Agreed, but it's good intelligence work so we can be ready.

Also, it's always great to see the Voat immune system in action when these people show up.

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[–] WitnesstheSalt 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

You have my sword! And my axe! And my dankest memes!

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[–] GutterTrash 1 points 94 points (+95|-1) ago 

Exactly what you can expect from liberals: Turn Reddit into a shithole, infect neighboring social platforms, and impose the same shitty policies that killed Reddit. #GENIUS

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[–] smt42 0 points 43 points (+43|-0) ago 

See also: Californians in Texas, Mexicans in the US, Massholes in New Hampshire, etc, etc

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[–] Happy_Chemtrails 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I think you meant Californians in Oregon, Washington, Arizona, Nevada, Idaho, and Texas.

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[–] CowWithBeef 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I hadn't heard of the MA NH problem. They're moving in and voting for higher taxes and social programs?

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[–] NeedleStack 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I haven't heard the term Massholes in a while. You sound like a Vermonter (I say this with affection).

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[–] SaitoInu 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Mexicans as a people didn't ruin Mexico, drug cartels did.

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[–] Glory_Beckons 3 points 14 points (+17|-3) ago  (edited ago)

No different from jungle monkeys, sand niggers and beaners fleeing their respective shitholes of their own creation, to invade our homelands and insist on doing the same shit all over again. It's no wonder liberals identify more with them than with us.

Liberals are white niggers.

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[–] antiliberalsociety 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

MAKE VOAT REDDIT AGAIN!

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[–] fusir 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

Or make Voat Voat again, like it was ironically before downvotes were unlimited.

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[–] rockjay556 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Sigh. Back to Digg and Fark?

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[–] WalkerFuenteWalther 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

It's just like having a bunch of California faggots move in, except they won't be offering you $800k for your one bedroom condo.

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[–] 475677 0 points 37 points (+37|-0) ago 

I can't wait to give them a red suppository of undeniable truth like how modern feminism takes the absolute works aspects of masculinity which ruins them as women. It's going to be fun.

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[–] Tazzermalt 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago  (edited ago)

I find the name 'Adra Molokh' interesting, plays a lot of anime Megaten Demonology stuff at reddit with young people..Molokh biblical name of a Canaanite god associated with child sacrifice @swordfish69 @ChangingPerspectives @carmencita is it my imagination or do these names sound a bit weird the name 'Cheesedoodlerrrr' ?

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[–] carmencita 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Whoa. Thanks for the ping!

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[–] BLOODandHONOUR [S] 0 points 32 points (+32|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Link to comments section on Ceddit: https://www.ceddit.com/r/bestof/comments/86b5db/user_elaborates_on_how_reddit_may_be_attempting/?limit=1500 .

There's some hilarious comments in there as well:

[–]slack901 points 31 minutes ago I already am looking for something better. Problem is what, voat is terrible all it has is fat people haters and racists/sexists. There isnt a place for what reddit used to be back in like 2012.

–]shpadoinkle9252 points 3 hours ago If Voat popped up now it might be better, but the problem was it's first big push was as an alternative to banned communities that were legitimately shitty, so surprise surprise Voat became shitty.

[–]Cheesedoodlerrrr9 points 1 hour ago Voat’s user base is largely people who migrated from banned Reddit subs. It’s a really nasty place over there.

[–]TheNakedZebra766 points 7 hours ago Yeah, I briefly checked that out last night. The top post on the news sub was a fake news article about how the Florida bridge that recently collapsed was built by an all-female engineering team. Someone commented with a link to the snopes post disproving it and they were downvoted.... So for now voat is out.

[–]verylobsterlike9 points 5 hours ago Currently the number 1 post on the front page of voat is: What people of color in America don't understand is that they are all in a better situation than their ancestors earned. Whites are mostly in a worse situation than what our ancestors earned Yeah, wow. No thanks.

[–]BlueShellOP37 points 5 hours ago The last time I was on there, the top post on AskVoat was a thread asking about why giving women the right to vote was a bad idea. The comments were very sexist and so....weird..

[–]melody-calling33 points 4 hours ago I checked voat like five days ago and I genuinely couldn't believe how racist it was. Like people were dropping the N bomb all over the place unironically as well as slurs for jewish people. It's the kind of nazi hell hole that far-right has wet dreams about.

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[–] CANCEL-CAT-FACTS 0 points 54 points (+54|-0) ago 

These comments are hilarious, but the thought that they think they have the right or the reason to come to voat in order to fundamentally change it is ominous and troubling.

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[–] NeedleStack 0 points 23 points (+23|-0) ago 

If they're that drippy I doubt they'd last long enough to fulfill their "mission". I'm not worried. :)

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[–] MaunaLoona 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago 

They could have their own safe space on Voat and we wouldn't care. They could have an echo chamber of whatever it is they want to talk about. I'd just block the sub and never see it again.

Instead they want to come in and "improve" Voat. Why?!

Mindboggling.

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[–] philomath 7 points 10 points (+17|-7) ago  (edited ago)

Do you think it’s okay that racists came in and fundamentally changed it? Prior to banned reddit exoduses, voat was a pretty chill, middle of the road place. Nobody dropped racial slurs, and nobody mentioned Jews. There was a round of reddit bans, and all the sudden, racial slurs started popping up. Funnily enough, the Jew haters were ostracized as spammers...then they became the majority.

It’s free speech, so if that’s what the majority wants that’s fine. I don’t care enough either way, and if I did I would leave.

I wonder, though, how many here would feel if a majority of lefty, butt hurt snowflakes showed up en masses and became the majority. Would you accept them under the banner of free speech even if you didn’t agree with them?

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[–] antiliberalsociety 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Where HAVE I seen this tactic before...

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[–] Crensch 4 points 27 points (+31|-4) ago 

Someone commented with a link to the snopes post disproving it and they were downvoted.... So for now voat is out.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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[–] BLOODandHONOUR [S] 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

Yeah I lost it too. Do those idiots have any idea who runs Snopes?

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[–] Rotteuxx 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

That sort of logic is why I often have trouble being optimistic about our common futures.

I cringed when I read that comment.

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[–] xenoPsychologist 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

that was my first thought on reading that.

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[–] Goathole 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

were dropping the N bomb all over the place unironically as well as slurs for jewish people.

That made my panties wet.

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[–] Samsquamch 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I actually LOLed reading that one

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[–] BLOODandHONOUR [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Ah, hence the username "goathole" -makes sense

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[–] prairie 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

snopes post disproving it

LOL.

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[–] crazy_eyes 1 points 31 points (+32|-1) ago 

Why the hell do they even care what happens here? We don't have anything to do with Reddit. Fucking stupidity. What's the point?

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[–] CANCEL-CAT-FACTS 0 points 40 points (+40|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The point is that they are jeopardy now of being banned or censored.

They were happy to see us all get banned off reddit for hate speech and other bogus reasons, but now that reddit is banning lots of other subreddits for other reasons, they are looking to jump ship and come here to make voat the new reddit.

The strategy they have been proposing is to come here in a group of at least 1000 and spend just an hour a day downvoating everyone.

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[–] crazy_eyes 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

Fuck them. Time for putt to unveil the new system.

If this place looks less like Reddit maybe they would forget about us. I don't want them here

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[–] LostandFound 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

It's a real life mind virus and their incubation on reddit is near complete. Soon the host will start exhibiting signs of the internal decay and the virus will have to spread.

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[–] crazy_eyes 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The virus should kill not spread

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[–] right_is_right 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

They want to spread there bullshit everywhere

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[–] xenoPsychologist 1 points 29 points (+30|-1) ago 

the "racist" and "sexist" stuff IS the logical discussion. reddit is a science denier site.

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[–] WhiteWakandan 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

B-but goy, the majority of social scientists believe that race is a social construct!

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[–] xenoPsychologist 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

isnt a degree in social science just a...

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[–] 12257523? 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

I can't help but see a parallel between these clowns and third world immigrants who want to keep practicing the customs that destroyed their old country in their new home.

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[–] odayerryday327 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

No shit, and all the morons moving from California because it sucks now and bringing their shitty ideas with them to previously red states like Colorado. Fucking cancer.......

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[–] Schreiber 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Not all of them, but since there's no good way to vet them, the few good guys need to be sacrificed as well. There's no way around collateral damage.

It's always better to sacrifice a few innocents as long as you get to inflict the maximum amount of pain to more of the bad guys. Which is why cruel and unusual punishment is good and necessary to reduce crime rate in the long run.

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[–] kcamstar 2 points 19 points (+21|-2) ago 

"racist/sexist shit".... in other words, let's take the censorship here on Reddit and go turn Voat into the same censored shithole.

No thanks faggot... you're better off staying where you are.

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[–] Podd 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Seriously why the fuck do they think we are here. I like it here where people say what mean and mean what they say. I can get all this information I'd never see anywhere else and learn (because it's too controversial) and I can make my own goddamned conclusions without someone trying to fucking social engineer me into whatever bullshit agenda they are trying to push.

Most of what people say here is counter to the programming so it's (for your average person) immediately met with skepticism, but then you ask... Why does this person believe this let me research some more. Oh that's is strange why are so many holocaust photos doctored... oh that's strange why do blacks commit so many more violent crimes... oh that's interesting why do liberal cities become shit holes after 20 years...

Fuck these people we want to think here even if it's unpleasant to know the truth, even if it makes us mad, even if it makes us sad.

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[–] carmencita 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Hear! Hear! Upvoat! A friend said to me, how can you stand reading about that all day, every day? I said, What? Don't you want to know what's really going on in the world, to all the people disappearing? Yeah she says, but it's so depressing. That's why we have these horrid problems. People willing to keep sticking their heads in the sand or you know where. No, Truth is Freedom.

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