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[–] SexMachine 3 points 21 points (+24|-3) ago 

The people who want Voat to remain the same won't have Voat in the near future if Voat doesn't innovate and distinguish itself. I understand change is scary, but survival is critical. Voat can't exist as a 'reddit clone.'

Voat has remained stagnate from a growth perspective for 2+ years and this won't change if nothing changes. Voat has to be a market leader or it won't last and we don't have much time to act.

The reality is Free Speech isn't important enough in and of itself to be a factor for growth, it's a liability that requires us to be creative.

I would give you reassurances but at this point I will just have to prove it... Again.

Truth.

Reddit didn't become one of the top 10 trafficked websites by being a clone of Digg.

People want to leave reddit, but they don't see voat as an option and half of the users here have this elitist gatekeeping mindset where if new users won't let you call them niggerjews, then you have to make them unwelcome here.

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[–] 0rion 7 points 10 points (+17|-7) ago 

Niggerfaggot is an excellent screening tool, and you know it.

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[–] SexMachine 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

But like Putt says, brigading new subverses with "niggerfaggot" and then crying about the mods banning and not supporting free speech in their subverse is just pushing people away, and this site isn't sustainable being a reddit clone with a userbase that mirrors that of stormfront.

That being said, pretty much everyone here is of similar opinions, and conversations get stagnant and hugboxy when everyone agrees. The diversity of opinions on voat are whether or not Jews are the cause of all the world's problems or debate about how big is the Jewish problem.

Come to Voat, where everyone can share their opinions freely, but if you don't agree a bunch of Nazi LARPers will constantly barrage you and tell you to go back to reddit.

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[–] voatHatesTheFirst 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago 

Oh look, one of those dumb fucks that thinks voat is about free speech, which it isn't by any stretch of the imagination, because he can say nigger.

Typical dumb fucking voat user is a dumb fuck.

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[–] BaneGhostiSwear 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

friendly reminder that @puttitout hasn't done a single subverse transfer request IN AN ENTIRE YEAR.

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[–] Firevine 3 points 2 points (+5|-3) ago 

I much prefer having some sort of ingrained screening process that has come up organically via site culture. If we don't have this kind of screening process, Voat will absolutely be nothing more than a Reddit clone. Wave after wave after wave of Reddit users will come here saying that they're mad at Reddit, and they'll just turn Voat into Reddit. We've seen it already with ban happy mods, the /v/esseff silliness, "The Pedes" and whatever other shitshows I'm forgetting.

Do I want Voat to grow? ...eh? Maybe? I want Putt to not throw money down the drain, sure. I'd like it to be at a point where he's not losing his ass. Growth on a site isn't necessarily "good". I've seen it time and time and time again over the years, from Reddit to niche hobbyist forums. MTGSalvation got huge...aaaaaaaannnnndddddd it's an overmoderated pile of dog shit. EverQuest forums back in the heyday: Get big, get taken over by corporate interests, aaaaaaaannnnndddddd they go to shit.

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[–] SexMachine 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Voat isn't going to survive as a reddit clone, neither is Gab going to survive as a Twitter clone. There has to be something that sets them apart, besides the user base. What exactly? I don't really know.

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[–] Lazmat 1 point 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

voat by it system and very copycat nature of reddit layout is unfortunately is probably destined to become another reddit, all you can do is slow it down and try keep it free for the moment making the globalist corporate transformation as slow as possible

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[–] auggs 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Are the chans just the way to go then? Is there such a place as a non-agenda driven aggregate forum.

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[–] 12075708? 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I wonder how Voat would be without votes at all? The main thing tht turns me off chans is the layout. I'd happily visit Voat if the main order of comments was oldest to newest or user set and no votes at all.

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[–] kneo24 1 point 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Once any place has attained enough traffic, the shills come out and reshape the place. Many parties are out to drive an agenda. Always be aware.

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[–] Cat-hax 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yep it will slowly turn into Reddit mk2

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[–] auggs 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Also guys check out talk radio if you havent already. Great medium for information. Podcasts too.

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[–] Salicaz 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Just out of curiosity, who is Putt referring to when he mentions "we" when it comes to directions of Voat etc? "We" want this and "we" aren't happy with that.

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[–] auggs 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

His donors or something. poor guy. Look at older links around this site. This drama has a crumb trail going back years.

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[–] Mr_Quagmire 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I find the timing of this new functionality... questionable, considering censorship that's been taking place lately across the internet.

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[–] NotHereForPizza 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Just for a little more exposure

https://voat.co/v/voatdev/2424006/12077320

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[–] Pattern_Blind 3 points 1 point (+4|-3) ago 

I see a lot of “volunteers” offering to help. What I hear is Kikes trying infiltrate. Or their reddit minions...

We respect all the work you do Puttitout, please do not let the kikes subvert and screw over the site. They pay shekels to their tribe members to keep harrasment on any site that we are allowed to call out the Jews. If this change preserves our freedoms and makes management of the site all that much better, I am pretty sure you are doing it for the right reasons.

One of the reasons I promote Voat to others is because of the free speech aspect, if that goes or is subversed into rule oblivion by a brigade of Kike Moderators paid by Israel to block anything questioning Yids, It will be time to move on and support another site.

Puttitout, You do great work thank you. It is not easy and having to deal with a fan base of Trolls is not easy. Just wanted to say thank you though.

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