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[–] Paneedleribena22 1 points 14 points (+15|-1) ago 

That’s why they want gun control.

They knew they can’t control themselves

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[–] Pattoe 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Is there a source for the statistics here? I like using sources in discussions and I refuse to say anything when I'm debating with liberals if I cannot cite it using reliable sources.

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[–] KennyBrassen [S] 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

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[–] Pattoe 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

This doesn't help when arguing against libtards, then again actual sources don't really help either...

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[–] casualgoat 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

You got me, and I’m not even mad. Actually, a little happy ‘bout it.

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[–] Koalemos_Grottesco 5 points -3 points (+2|-5) ago 

No, it is a second-order extrapolation based on crude generalizations that don't actually match reality. It is an obfuscatory, Rube Goldberg machine approach to saying that blacks commit a wild amount of gun violence.

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[–] CrudOMatic 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

Sure thing, cuck. Blacks commit 52% of all murders in the U.S. - despite being 13% of the population... but it gets worse than that. Since the overwhelming majority of murders are committed by men, we can discard women (~51%) - which leaves us with ~6% of the U.S. pop. Oh, but it gets EVEN BETTER - seeing as how 12-40 seems to be the age range in which almost all murders occur, we can discard 11 and under and 41 and older - leaving about 4% of the U.S. population. Of course, not the entirety of that 4% commit murders, so it is even less than 4%...

Less than 4% of the U.S. population is responsible for 52% of it's murders, and that >4% hails from merely 13% of the population. America has a serious nigger problem.

Oh, and before I forget - here is a comment detailing the stats @Pattoe asked for, with links: https://voat.co/v/whatever/2411437/12000974

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[–] Pattoe 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

We already know niggers commit a lot of gun crime, the statistics are very easy to cite, it's the "90% of gun crime commited by democrat voters" stat that I'd love a proper source for to use in arguments

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[–] realmonster 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

do you have any statistics for this?

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[–] daskapitalist 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago 

"Black made up 60.5 percent of all murder arrests in Missouri in 2012 and 58 percent of all robbery arrests, though they are less than 12 percent of the state’s population. Such vast disparities are found in every city and state in the country; there is no reason to think that Ferguson is any different…New York City is typical: blacks are only 23 percent of the population but commit over 75 percent of all shootings in the city, as reported by the victims of and witnesses to those shootings; whites commit under 2 percent of all shootings, according to victims and witnesses, though they are 33 percent of the city’s population. Blacks commit 70 percent of all robberies; whites, 4 percent. The black-white crime disparity in New York would be even greater without New York’s large Hispanic population. Black and Hispanic shootings together account for 98 percent of all illegal gunfire. Ferguson has only a 1 percent Hispanic population, so the contrast between the white and black shares of crime is starker there."

https://www.encounterbooks.com/features/11-critical-points-race-crime-america/

Also, blacks overwhelmingly vote Democrat:

"Trends in party affiliation among black voters have been largely stable over recent years. Overall, 87% of black voters identify with the Democratic Party or lean Democratic, compared with just 7% who identify as Republican or lean Republican."

http://www.people-press.org/2016/09/13/2-party-affiliation-among-voters-1992-2016/

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[–] Pattoe 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Your statistics are limited to a particular city and you claim it's "typical" of the rest of the US but you have no proof to confirm this, also, even if it was typical and blacks committed 75% of all shootings across the US as a whole, with the stat that 87% of "black voters identify with the democrat party" that doesn't include the fact that less than 60% of blacks have registered to vote (you could also theorise that blacks involved in gun crime are less likely to register to vote than blacks not involved in crime, but that would be hypothetical). less than 60% of a population having an 87% tendency does not mean just over 100% of the population has that tendency, at all. Your math is shit and if I used your assertions in an argument with a leftist, I'd get ripped to shreds and made to look like an idiot.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/05/12/black-voter-turnout-fell-in-2016-even-as-a-record-number-of-americans-cast-ballots/

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[–] Koalemos_Grottesco 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

The black voter registration rate wildly fluctuates between states, some are under 50%. Pinning this on democrats just obfuscates the point and is misleading as fuck, it pretends this is some idealogical issue when it is demographic.

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[–] gramman74 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

can you not look them up

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[–] eongoat 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Sen Cruz said it. "I have not, and I would note that this whole episode has really displayed the ugly underbelly of the media. You know, every time you have some sort of violent crime or mass killing, you can almost see the media salivating, hoping, hoping desperately that the murderer happens to be a Republican so they can use it to try to paint their political enemies. Now listen, here’s the simple and undeniable fact. The overwhelming majority of violent criminals are Democrats. The media doesn’t report that."


his source is

research published in January 2014 in The Annals of the American Academy of Political and Social Science and written by Marc Meredith, an associate professor in the University of Pennsylvania’s Department of Political Science, and Michael Morse, a Ph.D. student in the Department of Government at Harvard University

the report is not broken down by crime and only includes 3 states, so kinda small sample size. But that doesn't mean he's wrong. Just not verified correct.

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[–] arista81 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

San Quentin inmates held a mock election in October 2016. The results:

Hillary: 79% Jill Stein: 11% Trump: 9%

Next time you hear someone denigrate conservatives as racists or white supremacists, point out to them that rapists, murders and other violent felons are overwhelmingly democrat.

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[–] draaaak 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Don't forget the massive prison population of illegal aliens. Pretty sure they don't likey Trump very much.

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[–] vastrightwing 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Statistics are racist!

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[–] Whitemail 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It's mostly their black and brown pets.

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[–] Koalemos_Grottesco 6 points 1 points (+7|-6) ago  (edited ago)

This is a coward's way of avoiding the 600 lb gorilla in the room. Blaming it on democrats is second-order and just obfuscates the issue.

edit: Yes, downvoat me instead of recognizing that this is a demographic issue, not an idealogical one. If democrats were 100% white no sane person would predict similarly trending numbers. Additionally, black voter registration varies a ton per state, in some states it is under 50%.

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[–] GoatyMcGoatface 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

I upvoted. Some of us approach things directly here.

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[–] draaaak 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Can't it be both?

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[–] CallASpadeASpade 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Yeah, we all know this, but it’s still a good thing to point out to the gun grabbers. We own most of the guns but they do most of the killing. Ergo, ban guns for Democrats. We should meme that into reality. It’s better than just saying “shall not infringe” over and over.

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