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[–] Baconmon 7 points 98 points (+105|-7) ago  (edited ago)

The devestating effects of MGM are one of the hardest and hugest red pills for circumcised males to take.. It isn't easy to acknowledge the permanent damage that has been done to your sex life, including masturbation when you aren't even with any one..

Most people that haven't done research in to it will think that it isn't a big deal, but in reality the most important parts of the penis are amputated..

The original intention of this practice when it first began was to prevent you from masturbating, and even though you can still technically masturbate and have sex, it is still a fairly successful surgery because it can decrease your orgasm pleasure up to about 70% according to people that have been circumcised later in life..

The number of nerves in your penis goes from about 24,000 to just 4,000 after the procedure.. The head of your penis becomes more insensitive over time because a layer of keratin develops around it so it can protect its self, because it (the head) is now an outside-organ when it was meant to be an inside-organ..

However, despite what most people think, even the head in an intact penis isn't ultra sensitive; The part that gives the most pleasure is the ridged band around the end of the foreskin (when it is erect).. This ridged band is entirely removed in circumcision.. This is why people that have been circumcised later in life often have to re-learn how to masturbate, because the part that is used to orgasm is now completely gone.. In other words, circumcised males have to use auxiliary parts of the penis to orgasm that were not necessarily made specifically to orgasm.. This is why they must be so much more aggressive in masturbation and sex, because they simply can not feel nearly as much sexual sensory information, whereas intact males are often told to merely use their thumb and 1-2 fingers to lightly move their ridged band up and down until orgasm.. This is also why intact men have an easy time doing things like rubbing their penis between a girl's boobs and being able to orgasm, or being able to use a shower head to orgasm, whereas a circumcised man will find these things either difficult or impossible from the lack of sensation.. The foreskin is not the candy wrapper, it IS the candy..

An other effect is that circumcised males have a 4.5x higher rate of erectile dysfunction, which if you think about it, means you will have trouble getting and maintaining an erection about 4.5x times more often than an intact male.. This is why viagra is so prevalent in the USA and israel, and in israel it has actually been approved to be used as an over-the-counter drug, because so many jews need it in israel..

There are several more complications too, such as the foreskin's sliding action being used to easily move the penis back/forth inside of the vagina, whereas a cut penis will often need artificial lubrication to reduce the friction inside of the vagina.. A cut penis needs about 10x the insertion force that an intact penis does..

There is also the orgasm's intensity, which I said earlier can be reduced to about 30% of what it originally should have been.. People that have been circumcised in mid-life have compared the transition to things like drinking a chocolate milk-shake compared to drinking skim-milk, or seeing in full-range color compared to seeing in greyscale..

One thing I have noticed my self is that when I see any videos of huge cum shots, the penis is invariably always an intact penis.. It has been shown that the amount and force of the ejactulate loosely correlates with the orgasm's intensity, which leaves those whom were forcefully mutilated at birth to only wonder what kind of experiences they are missing out on..

When you take every thing in to consideration, you realize that calling this practice 'mutilation' is not an exaggeration; The practice of calling it 'circumcision' is sugar-coating the reality that there are still some countries in the world that will mutilate a perfectly healthy new-born baby boy for reasons that don't hold water such as "it is cleaner" (it takes 1 second to clean an intact penis), or "it prevents penis cancer" (only by like 0.0001% or some thing ridiculous, which is way less than the rate of females that get breast cancer, yet we don't remove their breasts when they are born to prevent breast cancer)..

This practice, even in the USA, is slowly decreasing, but still about 50% of the US new-borns are still being mutilated at birth with out the baby's consent.. It needs to stop.. Let them choose on their own when they are 18 years of age whether or not they want their most important parts severed off or not..

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[–] BLOODandHONOUR [S] 1 points 21 points (+22|-1) ago 

Thank you for your input. I have researched this many times and have found similar information. The foreskin restoration websites offer some good counseling points to help grieve and cope with what was done.

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[–] 1womansthoughts 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

I am unashamedly going to piggyback off of your comment because I want this to be seen. I think women don’t want to weigh in as to their personal sexual experiences regarding being with a circumcised vs intact man for obvious reasons.

I also don’t think that a lot of women realize what they too have been cheated out of with this barbaric practice.

I am using a throwaway because I don’t feel comfortable commenting on this topic under my regular account. Not to be cliche but I am not the same person I was 20 years ago. That feels like a different life to me now.

I am definitely not a whore or a slut but I was no saint before I married. I have had a total of four sexual partners. One was intact. The rest circumcised. Don’t judge me too harshly. I saw the error of my ways, repented, and turned my life around.

Also, this was just what I noticed personally.... just my personal observations...

First off being in the US seeing an intact penis is just really something I don’t think that most women are expecting to see. I think that’s the reason behind the “aesthetic” aspect to it. Once you get used to seeing what a penis is actually supposed to look like it is absolutely a non issue. No, it doesn’t look like a “dog dick” but it’s just not what women have been conditioned to expect to see. One woman puts it down and the rest follow. I am sorry to say this has been my experience as a female as to how females tend to operate for the most part.

This is just one female’s personal experience. I am not trying to speak on behalf of women everywhere. What I can say is that there is definitely a difference between a circumcised and intact pens. With an intact man it is more intense for the woman as well because of greater sensation on the guy’s part and this causing him to be generally more responsive.

I don’t really know how else to describe this except to say that with a foreskin the motion is entirely different. It’s more a gentle gliding/rocking/swaying motion. There is a more natural and easier almost effortless rhythm to it. As a woman I have found (and this is just me) it is this type of motion that helps to achieve a female orgasm.

Because of the natural extra lubrication and lesser force that needs to be exerted from the intact male sex lasts a lot longer. A lot longer. Circumcised men seem to be racing to the finish line rather than enjoying the trip in getting there.

Now that may just be a difference between individuals but I don’t think it is. I think it has everything to do with intact vs circumcised just due to the minimal force required in an intact man and the extra lubricant.

I am not trying to offend or upset anymore and I am absolutely not trying to say or insinuate that sex is better with an intact man or with a circumcised one. I think sex will always be the best when you are with the person you were meant to be with and is part of the reason I wish I had saved my virginity for my husband.

I have bad feelings towards and about those previous partners and relationships so I am definitely not lusting after or even reminiscing over those past sexual experiences.

I just am extremely upset that my husbands’ parents chose to do this to him. As we age I can’t help but notice a decrease in his pleasure and the fact that he has to be... rougher, more physically intense... at the same time I am needing him to start becoming a little more gentle. It scares me that I can’t... cause the same desire in him that I used to see. It is a horrific thought that he may develop ED eventually when the thing that I want most in the world is to just keep that connection and closeness with him. I love him. He’s my world.

Out of fear I have tried bringing up this extremely difficult topic with him to see if he might want to explore foreskin restoration but understandably he gets a bit defensive about it so I have dropped it for now.

Women need to take note of how MGM affects not only their sexual and physical relationships with the men they love but the entire relationship as a whole and refuse to circumcise their sons.

Forget differentiating between FGM and MGM it’s all mutilation. FGM affects men as well and MGM affects women too. This shit needs to stop.

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[–] Baconmon 1 points 15 points (+16|-1) ago 

Thank you for touching on the female side of MGM..
Your experience is actually very common for women that have had the opportunity to experience both intact and circumcised partners.. Many of them have expressed the similar notion of the guy wanting to race to the finish, and I believe this stems from the lack of erogenous sensory nerves in the circumcised penis.. As far as I understand, an intact man feels sex closer to that of which a female feels.. With the relatively insensitive circumcised penis, the male does not accumulate all that much erotic feeling until he orgasms, which is why he wants to skip the "boring" part leading up to orgasm and just orgasm.. The intact male feels intense sexual pleasure even from the start of the session all the way until the climactic end, just as a female does..

I have read many stories from women about it, including a woman born in the USA that thought she had a natural lubrication problem with her body, until she took a trip to europe and found out that her partners in europe had no problem with her lubrication and did not need to use any artificial lubrication, among the sex being much better according to her..

So when parents decide to have their child mutilated at birth, they aren't only hurting that child's entire sex life, but also the sex life of their future partners.. This practice needs to end, because all of the "benefits" of circumcision have been proven to be myths, and even when a child has real phimosis, it can easily be cured naturally through routine stretching of the foreskin along with some cream; There is absolutely no need to give the child a complete foreskin amputation..

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[–] MrShill 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

"I am definitely not a whore or a slut but I was no saint before I married. I have had a total of four sexual partners. One was intact. The rest circumcised. Don’t judge me too harshly. I saw the error of my ways, repented, and turned my life around."

Don't apologise, we are a mutually supportive and non judgmental community. Please share

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[–] olltre 3 points -3 points (+0|-3) ago 

absolutely degenerate...

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[–] [deleted] 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago  (edited ago)

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[–] Volksgemeinschaft 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I did and now I'm sad.

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[–] NeoGoat 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Ignorance is ignorance, not bliss.

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[–] BlowjaySimpson 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Me either. (((They))) won't mutilate my child.

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[–] Son_Of_Hate 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

And if none of that convinces you, look up a video of infant circumcision. There is a clear difference between a baby's normal cry, and a shriek of pain. I've seen a lot of fucked up shit in my day, but that screaming baby still haunts me.

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[–] prairie 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Apparently they can measure changes in cortisol and other stress hormones months after the mutilation. This kind of thing likely has a permanent effect on the infant's perception of the world and a lack of safety.

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[–] arniecuntingham 0 points 26 points (+26|-0) ago 

I am. I did. they couldn't give a fuck. I am also pissed that my bitch mother didn't breastfeed me. I am the youngest. she did it for 2 of my sisters. not me. fucking cunt.

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[–] RemyLeBeaux 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

My mother didn't breastfeed 3 of us, and did breastfeed the last baby. The issue apparently was that her parents and her doctors both told her it was primitive and indecent to breastfeed. She eventually learned that it simply wasn't true.

Even today lots of women get shit from their families, strangers, and even authority figures for feeding their babies when they need to be fed

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[–] arniecuntingham 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

what could possibly be more natural? it's the whole reason mammary glands exist. (I know they are nice to look at etc., but they do have a definite function).

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[–] Salbuchi_2019 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

The issue apparently was that her parents and her doctors both told her it was primitive and indecent to breastfeed.

Please tell me you're trolling.

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[–] DishingShitLikeA 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

Do you find yourself more prone to illness and allergies than your sisters?

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[–] arniecuntingham 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

yes, as a child I was always sick. also, I had very poor vision, unlike them.

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[–] BLOODandHONOUR [S] 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

That is strange. Because she hates men?

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[–] arniecuntingham 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I don't know. I can't get straight answer. I think she just didn't feel like it.

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[–] undertheshills 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Mine did the same shit. Bitches.

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[–] arniecuntingham 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

oh, yeah. I got no sympathy. it was like "oh, don't be silly. all boys get circumcised. stop making a big deal out of it."

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[–] elitch2 0 points 26 points (+26|-0) ago  (edited ago)

My parents asked if I wanted to get circumcised when I was 3. I reacted how any sane human should. With horror.

I am grateful for the choice.

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[–] 11958725? 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

You can tell the world is fucked up when a 3 year old has more common sense than all the adults around him.

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[–] 2calculated 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago  (edited ago)

It's because you live in Babylon. Adults are well indoctrinated into the beast system, and children still have God given discernment (common sense).

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[–] prairie 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Just be glad they didn't ask you what gender you want to be. /s

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[–] elitch2 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I'm old. We didn't have that shit back then.

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[–] lorlipone 1 points 25 points (+26|-1) ago 

I don't mind that I was circumcised, but I definitely see that it's a violation or someone's rights. I wouldn't do it to my (hypothetical future) kids.

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[–] DishingShitLikeA 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago 

I mind. Alot.

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[–] lorlipone 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Fair enough - I understand how a person would.

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[–] 2calculated 3 points 14 points (+17|-3) ago 

Unpopular opinion: I think people who "don't mind" are just lying to themselves.

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[–] gazillions 3 points 7 points (+10|-3) ago 

I don't think hating your penis is really the way to go.

For a few generations every man was, and it never even occurred to them to give the circumcision a 2nd thought.

By all means don't allow your kids to have it done but don't assume cut males aren't fully enjoying their wangs.

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[–] 1womansthoughts 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Unpopular or not just wanted to say that I think you are correct. I have had the circumcision discussion (me against it, him for it) with my husband when discussing the possibility of having sons. His body language was very telling as was the tone he spoke.

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[–] lorlipone 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago  (edited ago)

It's just that it's always worked fine, and I have no frame of reference. Maybe it's that I don't know better, but I have had no reason to be upset about it.

Edit: Other than the fact that it was an unelected surgery.

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[–] solvire 2 points 19 points (+21|-2) ago 

Mom said she wanted us to be like our dad. That was about all the thought she put into it. My dad was from that generation that culturally got it. Boomers aren't individual thinkers so I don't think anything will come of that conversation.

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[–] BLOODandHONOUR [S] 2 points 9 points (+11|-2) ago 

You're right. They let someone else do their thinking for them and any rocking of the boat causes massive shock and horror.

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[–] tinyhousesbrah 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

No offense but I dislike people like your mother.

It's not just literally cutting up baby dicks (Jesus Christ), but whenever somebody fails to think a little harder than usual, especially when it is permanent or important: that annoys the shit out of me.

I realize we can't think from first principals on literally everything all the time but there are occasions when it should be obvious.

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[–] solvire 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

that generation was misguided. It is a great example of a self-centered majority in a voting class that starts to group think. I finished a book called A Generation of Sociopaths that was fairly decent in laying out where they went wrong. Not sure any other group would do different. Very few people are free thinkers. Most go with the herd and respond to stimulus.

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[–] Herpfree93 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Just watch the crowds at a beetles or Elvis concert. Not individuals thinkers.

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[–] solvire 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

They were TV generations. Begging to be satisfied. It's sad to look back on them.

When/if the millennials realize who is actually holding everything back we will have real SHTF

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[–] ForTheUltimate 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

nah I think age simply reveals the old cranky shitass algorithms of robots they are.

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[–] by2inthemorning 1 points 19 points (+20|-1) ago 

I think you guys would like to know that doctors are now advising against circumcisions . I had a boy recently and I was asking the pediatrician how to clean him down there. I told her I didnt want circumcision and that if they were going to send someone to not. The doctor said "we don't do that. Its not even recommended anymore" Another friend had a boy almost 2 years ago and the pediatrician tried talking her out it . She already had another son she didn't get circumcised so she thought it was funny.

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[–] MrShill 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I heard a story, I dunno if it's true. A mother kept pestering her doctor to circumcise her son. He kept trying to talk her out of it but she wouldn't let up and finally threatened to take him somewhere else. So the doctor said ok fine, I'll do it but you need to hold him still while I do it. Apparently this mother was so traumatized by it she didn't have it done with her other sons

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[–] BLOODandHONOUR [S] 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

That is awesome! If you are able to reveal the hospitals where that was without doxxing yourself, I'm sure we would all love the recommendation.

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[–] by2inthemorning 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

friend lives in ohio its fine she doesnt live in that area she just likes the hospital Kettering Medical Center and everyone in P.R. seems to be sent to the same hospital no matter where you live on the island Hospital Episcopal San Lucas

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[–] mudbear 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

thats positive, got worries about my boy since he had a lump, its just something that goes away on its own though and doesnt need to be cleaned till they are about 3 or so when they can retract their foreskin.

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[–] Baconmon 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Just a side note for future reference: You should never forcefully retract your baby's foreskin; It can cause bleeding and cause phimosis later in life from the damage of the forced retracting.. It will naturally retract on its own when it is ready, but the age in which this happens can some times vary widely..

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[–] by2inthemorning 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Oh I know its terrifying the misinformation floating around . Some say to pull back his foreskin now as an infant and I wasnt sure how to do that ..its so small how do you even but then thank god I learned before I did it that its not until much later you pull it back whew.

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[–] 11958513? 1 points 16 points (+17|-1) ago 

Definitely angry. My parents are woolies. No point in saying anything. If a jew tried to genitally mutilate my son I will Gass the creature myself.

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[–] by2inthemorning 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I tried looking it up first .. woolies? Does it mean sheep?

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[–] BLOODandHONOUR [S] 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Yeah it does

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[–] 11959358? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

heh yeah

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[–] grandmacaesar 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

I am circumcised. My wife and I had my first son circumcised. When my second son was born, the doctor asked if I wanted to attend and hold my son during the circumcision. I said yes. Moments later I collapsed in tears in the hallway, in shock at what I had just done to my child. My third son is not circumcised.

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[–] BLOODandHONOUR [S] 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

This is how people feel when they get to see what happens up close. Same as when the germans showed their people what kosher killings looked like or when women are shown what an abortion looks like. Good on you for making the right decision.

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[–] ViciousRetard 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Better late than never

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