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[–] NotHereForPizza 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

What if the best approach is just genuinely showing women all the data and trying to reason with them, hoping the ones that we get through to will project their fortune on to the others in the way of vicarious reenforcement - a learning process wherein the one learning watches and mimics the other when witnessing them rewarded for good behavior.

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[–] recon_johnny 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Short answer (because I really don't want to type all the theory and examples--and there's plenty): Because generally, women aren't logical.

How many times have you heard of women doing something, just simply because they want to or think it's a good idea--damn the long term effects?

Hate saying it, but go to Reddit, go on The Red Pill. It's a sub for creating an environment for men to have more sex in today's society--BUT, it also has great information on how shit works. You can ignore the "Lift, bro, have sex" nonsense (although there is some solid reasoning behind all of their positions). Granted, there's usually a shit storm of posts, but the theory (with examples) are on the side bar. It talks a lot more, and with a lot more effort than I'm willing to say here, about women, relationships, mindset, and the like. There's suggested reading (which is very good). It'll take about a month to go through it all. By then you'll have absorbed some good data.

And then you'll understand why you can't explain it to a woman. That just doesn't work--nor does it make you look good in her eyes. There's a sub called Married Red Pill, but that's usually an incoherent circlejerk that gives conflicting info. HOWEVER....it does have some good points to retain.

(To me...) It's about leadership. Being a strong man with a strong sense of identity, and leading your wife/LTR (who's called a first mate to your captain) down the path. This isn't done in a day, or a month, nor by explanation. It's by examples that you provide.

A daughter, like this one, needs to be raised in an environment where she's taught (from the get go), that having many partners is bad, that the media really wants to bring down society (it's the Jews, dude. Plain and simple), and by starting them early in a good place is best for everybody.

PM me if you want to yak more. j

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[–] uvulectomy 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

For faster consumption, go watch The Red Pill. Plenty of examples in that of what happens when women are confronted with facts, logic, and reason.

tl;dw - There's screeching, condescension, derision, and outright dismissal from the women. Even the film's creator, while she eventually comes around by the end, struggles with what she's learning.

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[–] NotHereForPizza 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Trust me, I'm way ahead of you.

Beyond that though, I should have been more specific than I was. What I was really suggesting was an organized propaganda campaign for the likes of insta, tumbler, pintrest, etc.

TRP has good content, but there are snakes in the grass. Read Michael's Story (still feels like some NLP anchoring and the likes going in the story though) and other big ones as most of those required readings are decent despite a few blips here and there. The further in you get, the closer you get to the snakes. Keep to the perimeter, ghost their intel, and circle back around. They are infiltrated, and D&C is prevalent there. Don't fall for the vaginal jew, sure, but beware of the lonely MGTOW jew as well.

Want to know what to really take away from that circle? I'll give you a few outlines and places to start - the rest you've got to find on your own: framing, NLP (I then observed monarch, laugh tracks, etc), shit tests, amused mastery (big one), pedestal/oneitis (still don't like this term, as it has too much embedded meaning for a lot of people, but I'm using it to reference not focusing too much on one particular "target") etc. Start with these topics, as these are the ones that tend to stand out due to utility and frankly, effectiveness.

It makes all the sense in the world to seek out help from the hunter, and not the hunted. People that steer you in other directions are out to see you crash in to a tree (or worse - a fence of child support). Then you have the self-help realm - nutrition, testosterone building (basically just working out and don't not eat meats), vidya jew (yeah, we're stepping out of TRP/pickup/MGTOW/RSD/etc.), etc.

I don't want to PM this, I want them and (((them)) to see it. Both of them deserve it.

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[–] B166-ER ago 

It might be a mute point but I'll throw it out there anyway because I feel it would make a significant impact....

I think the idea of women sleeping around a lot or as much as the average man is not bad on its own. The problem we have is the quality of men that these sluts sleep with. The wifey material college freshman want the wiggers and niggers on Fraternity Lane to run a train on her, rather than Geeks and Nerds who have more to contribute to society. When the most valued female assets are focused on the jocks and assholes, the narcissists, sociopaths, date rapists and drug abusers. The other men look around and ask themselves... "Do I want to grow up to be a man of substance, contribute positively to society in math or science or medicine.... or do I want to have women who are not obese wales or worn out whores?"

It's not like you see college women getting all dressed up and slutty on a Friday night talking about how they're going to crash the chess team meetup and see if one of them can get a guy there to use his natural abilities to finish college with a grant for the next big revolution in stem-cell therapy...

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[–] Tzitzimitl 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

most women straight up ignore logic until menopause

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[–] NotHereForPizza 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Most

That's precisely what I wanted to take advantage of

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[–] NotHereForPizza ago 

We don't want them to jump up and denounce their previous beliefs, that'd be foolish and we know that won't happen. What we want is to see other, more valuable women, being rewarded for acceptable behavior, only to have the less valuable women follow suit. Women say a lot of things that carry little to no weight. Those words, frankly, matter very little. Therefore, the biggest reaction would likely be had if they observed a phenomenon wherein these women they've looked up to and longed to mimic most of their conscious lives were rewarded for their palatable behavior, whereas those parroting idiotic talking points their boyfriends don't like are given less and less attention.

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[–] doran 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

What if the best approach is just genuinely showing women all the data and trying to reason with them

I think you are approaching this from the wrong angle. If you are talking about a daughter you can speak frankly and use the Socratic method, ask them what they think will make them happy and how they want to work towards that. most will be in touch with their own humanity enough to say that family is a big part of life, If they say they want to be a underwater welder or some picular profession then they may be that tiny fraction who is better off without family but this is stastically unlikely.

if you are talking about this for your self, as in looking to find a good wife: you are barking up the wrong tree. once they start down the long road of cocks its too late. If they want that life then they will get it, even if you make a nonjudgemental compassionate and well-reasoned argument about how it's not what high-quality guys want, they won't care. they won't be interested in high quality for 10 years, what they want are high length and high volume.

don't expect to find great quality at walmart. there might be the coassional steal of a deal there but most of the time its crap for cheap. South american, eastern europian and asian women are much more likely to share your traditional values.

step 1: become high-quality guy (make money, take care of health, read, always work to better yourself, ect) step 2: find high-quality women while shopping in a high quality marketplace (some church girls or the aforementioned countries)