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so remove the min wage in USA. all we hear is excuses - simple truth is that chinese simply outwork and outsmart US. they also keep good foreign relations, don't steal oil and don't sanction anyone
They don't outsmart us. They outwork us because asians are basically slaves and do whatever they are told to do. But the organizing intelligence behind the work of asians is always lacking. Their production methods are crude and their production quality is ridiculously low. Just like you can't make an army out of slaves you can't make good workers out of slaves either.
Just because you can make a man work for you doesn't mean you can make him work well for you.
They used to work for less money (it's catching up to the point where including government shenanigans you're practically better off staying local unless it's a necessity for entering the Chinese market), which is a large part of it. Most people can also attest that Chinese frequently cut corners so you may find you're getting what you pay for.
There are other issues like taxes and stocks being different and the fact that the American company might actually just be contracting a Chinese factory to do the work, ship it over and go through a QC/Assembly process on the machine that add to cost as well.
I'd agree that we've lost the ability to competitively produce a lot of manufactured goods locally, especially low-end goods that require a fair amount of manhours to complete, but that's also largely because you have workers competing against wage rates in places like Southeast Asia. Hard to stay competitive, profitable and pay a wage that's going to attract anybody decent against that.
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so remove the min wage in USA. all we hear is excuses - simple truth is that chinese simply outwork and outsmart US. they also keep good foreign relations, don't steal oil and don't sanction anyone
[–] dontforgetaboutevil ago
They don't outsmart us. They outwork us because asians are basically slaves and do whatever they are told to do. But the organizing intelligence behind the work of asians is always lacking. Their production methods are crude and their production quality is ridiculously low. Just like you can't make an army out of slaves you can't make good workers out of slaves either.
Just because you can make a man work for you doesn't mean you can make him work well for you.
[–] no_step_on_snek ago
They used to work for less money (it's catching up to the point where including government shenanigans you're practically better off staying local unless it's a necessity for entering the Chinese market), which is a large part of it. Most people can also attest that Chinese frequently cut corners so you may find you're getting what you pay for.
There are other issues like taxes and stocks being different and the fact that the American company might actually just be contracting a Chinese factory to do the work, ship it over and go through a QC/Assembly process on the machine that add to cost as well.
I'd agree that we've lost the ability to competitively produce a lot of manufactured goods locally, especially low-end goods that require a fair amount of manhours to complete, but that's also largely because you have workers competing against wage rates in places like Southeast Asia. Hard to stay competitive, profitable and pay a wage that's going to attract anybody decent against that.