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[–] EarlPoncho 2 points 31 points (+33|-2) ago 

he's also a 64 year old baby boomer who set up a series of cameras

show me one 64 year old who can even set up a blu ray player

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[–] BobBelcher 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

You have no idea what kind of camera setup it was but just because it's a piece of technology and he's 64 = impossible? My dad is older and he setup a few cameras around his house without any problem.

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[–] EarlPoncho 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

he set up a network of security cameras all linked together. this isn't the work of a "real estate investing, gambling" baby boomer. something about the story doesn't add up. if he was trained by the cia that's obviously another story

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[–] Pawn 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I'm sure several of the old school programmers could set it up.

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[–] Biscuitbaiter 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

He was there for multiple days, he didn't carry 400 lbs of anything up at one time. Plus, they have carts for luggage and elevators making it very light work if he needed it done that way. If he took a few bags at a time, no one would even know or suspect him. He had 10 suitcases in a room that he rented out which is designed for large parties of people to stay in. He supposedly acted like he was ordering food for multiple people by checking orders on the phone with room service etc...

He didn't disarm the fire alarm because that is what gave away his position and what triggered when he started smoking barrels and rounds. What other security systems are you stating he disarmed? It's also not hard to move some furniture around the room to create a better platform for shooting, even at 64. There are double sets of curtains and a lot of suites even have remote controlled curtains, again, easy to do, easy to hide movement.

Housekeeping and maid service isn't mandatory, all it takes to keep them out of a room is a plastic, "Do not disturb" sign. They also have signs that say, "No turn down service requested" depending on the resort or hotel. No one had to go into the room if he didn't want them to. When people think about setting up cameras, it's probably something like running power cords etc... The dude probably bought some wireless cameras or even a damn baby monitor would work. He set it on a food service cart which he had ordered earlier that evening/day. Those carts are often left for very long periods of time sitting in the hallways sometimes until the next day even.

It's not hard to set something on it and partially conceal it then set that outside of the door. The windows were not removed. They were shattered out using either a handheld sledge which was pictured or by automatic fire. Anyone saying that the windows have security triggers on them with alarms is full of shit too, it's not something that they have at any suite I've rented in Vegas. It'd also extremely cost prohibitive to install that type of system in a hotel, even in Vegas.

It's an assumption that he had "no training". Anyone with that many firearms has used them prior, period. Anyone collecting for "decades" has used his rifles enough to gain the skills required to do what was done. His own brother stated in his second interview that he didn't like the bump stocks, implying they shot them. Anyone can go off into some woods and blast off a few hundred rounds here or there to learn the action of a rifle, etc... He didn't require serious "training" to plow rounds by the hundreds into a spot crowded with almost 30k people even at that range.

His lack of ability is apparent in how many people didn't die with him basically shooting fish in a barrel even at a further distance. The rounds easily reached their mark with the rifles he was using, the lack of accuracy shows with the lack of body count and the types of platforms he used (IE: bump stocks).

The only real valid argument I see here is, "No motive". Any peckerhead that goes to this length of planning and execution has motive. If you want to question shit, question legit concerns like what was on the fucking note? If cameras were set up were any actually filming him like earlier suspected? What did they contain?

How did they rule out ISIS in like 12 hours but can't settle election hacking disputes in almost a year if you want to go out on a limb... I still argue it was a deranged Antifa linked Pinkpussyhat wearing peckerhead and his motives would closely resemble their desires.

I don't buy all the bullshit we're being fed and I don't agree with the way a lot of the "investigation" has been handled. I do however have extensive experience with and have stayed in various hotel suites in Vegas. I am an avid outdoorsman with experience handling the same types of weaponry used here. I know the difference between pop shots and aimed calculated rounds being fired down range. Anyone can hit the broad side of a barn, hitting the hinges off the door at 300yrds is different.

I just don't want people focusing on stupid facts but instead questioning more important areas of the event. It's bullshit we aren't able to know more and probably won't get to see the truth about this event. It's not impossible to have a 64 year old do what was done though.

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[–] tzitzit 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Thanks for being rational, so I didn't have to.

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[–] BobBelcher 5 points -2 points (+3|-5) ago 

Dude, this is Voat (aka the InfoWars forum), you can't come in here with your logic and reason being all rational. You have to speculate wildly on things you know jack shit about without thinking or be prepared to be called a shill and a jew.

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[–] lexsird 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Kind of thin isn't it?

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[–] Ex-Redditor [S] 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

ive also read that the authorities gave out false information about the shooters booking in time and his car number plate. So if they lied about that, what else are they lieing about? Apparently paddock was in a fbi sting selling arms to isis that are in the usa. The camers equipment was to record the transaction. Isis got wind of it , killed paddock then the 59 then escaped and still at large..

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[–] lexsird 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Yeah, but who goes lone cowboy on an FBI sting selling weapons to ISIS? Surely even the FBI doesn't send an asset in alone to something like that?

If ISIS did fuck up a sting and this guy is the stooge informant left there whacked, where's the fucking agents?

Ha...it's probably some affirmative action hire of a woman or minority or both that fucked it up and got spotted and snatched as a hostage. Big fucking shootout, agent in the wind with life at risk as a hostage. Lots of egg all over the authorities, lots of shitting pants because killers on the loose. Definitely want this out of the damn news, throw them bones anything to buy time.

My theory all along has been it's an Antifa/ISIS/<insert rogue alphabet agency> clusterfuck. Someone jumped the gun a month early.

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[–] edistojim 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Thin? Damn near anorexic.

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[–] library_of_stupid 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago 

And why would they choose him as their patsy? If they're so competent to stage all this and fool the world why would select the most unlikely of candidates to be their fall guy?

Do you ever think you need to step out of the conspiracy circlejerk and breathe in some fresh air?

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[–] MrAmerica 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Because he was there? I assume in the intelligence business you don't always have access to a steady supply of insane people. You don't have to be a conspiracy nut to think 26 guns is a bit much for a spree shooting.

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[–] Pattoe 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

You reckon all windows in Las Vegas would be hurricane proof?

Considering they're in the middle of a fucking desert.

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[–] Ex-Redditor [S] 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago  (edited ago)

they do have tornado's in 'the middle of a fucking desert'.

Las Vegas at Risk for Tornadoes and Severe Storms This Afternoon

http://thevane.gawker.com/las-vegas-at-risk-for-tornadoes-and-severe-storms-this-1639598767

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[–] Uberbob79 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

suicide deterrence
don't need a jumper harshing anyone else's good time

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[–] Ina_Pickle 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

They use the super thick glass shatterproof (cracks on impact unless extreme force is used)in all skyscrapers regardless of location.

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[–] GrandNagus 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Mostly because you don't want drugged up and drunk people falling out of windows, secondary is that they are energy efficient and keep the heat/cold out depending on your location.

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[–] Mylon 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

Removed a window? He shot through it. Aimed firepower? He was bumpfiring. That's not aiming at all. He just had a lot of targets so it was impossible to miss. I didn't hear anything about disarming alarms.

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[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Interestingly, the official story about that note appears to be that he was calculating bullet drop.

"I could see on it he had written the distance, the elevation he was on, the drop of what his bullet was gonna be for the crowd," Newton said. "So he had that written down and figured out so he would know where to shoot to hit his targets from there."

http://archive.is/F905P

Which makes little sense with the equipment he was using to fire on the crowd. He was basically spray-and-pray at that point.

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[–] triggaMaNigga 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I'm thinking he might have done both aimed fire and rapid fire, or possibly thought about it.

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[–] cyks 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

Which makes little sense with the equipment he was using to fire on the crowd. He was basically spray-and-pray at that point.

Misinformation. The video and radio evidence from day one all points to designated marksmen rifles being used to precision snipe people in the head/neck. You obviously are speaking through your ass.

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[–] malloryquinn 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Pretty sure he would have used an elevator.

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[–] obvious-throwaway- 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I hope the casino never gets robbed!

They would have no video surveillance to look back at to see what happened. They don't have cameras in the elevators, the parking lot, the surrounding area, the lobby, the check in where workers have cash drawers, literally nowhere in the casino do they have cameras. Now sure, Paddock was previously in a lawsuit with the same casino where they used recorded video evidence to win their case, but I assume after that day this casino took down all their cameras.

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[–] notaspy 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Ya, in this day and age you would think they had at least one camera in the hotel. I'm not worried about a thing though - I love and trust my government and the authorities. How 'bout those (insert local sportsball team)!?

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[–] BobBelcher 3 points -3 points (+0|-3) ago 

They have video, they just haven't released it to the public. Stop being a moron.

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[–] obvious-throwaway- 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I guess they need time to work on their narrative. I'll be a good goyim and just be quiet and wait for my (((government))) to tell me what happened.

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[–] con77 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

the "authorities" are liars

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