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[–] middle_path 0 points 31 points (+31|-0) ago 

Any basic level of thought into how search engines work and how auto completion works, even additional testing, shows that it's bogus. And yet this is on our front page. How?

Bing results.
Google result 1.
Google result 2.

You could have just tried it for yourself, but it's pretty obvious the algorithm is corrupted. I dislike political polarity as well, I'm kind of known for it around here, but don't speak of things you do not know.

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[–] elcob32 3 points 14 points (+17|-3) ago 

I think many of the older goats agree with you. The young goats will learn... or just run away crying.

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[–] basil_s0up 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

That's why they're still kids.

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[–] Uncle_Slob 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

You can't have a hive mind with individual thinkers...

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[–] smallpond 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

Maybe the younger goats won't learn: perhaps they'll just continue to circle jerk each other while CCP restrictions throttle any opposition that could serve to weed out weak arguments and improve everyone's understanding.

Disclaimer: If we’re conversing, I will soon fall silent. I may want to continue, but because many users are unpopular here and have less than 100 CCP, we are temporarily banned as soon as we make 10 comments in a day. Voat does not respect free speech, but I'm grateful for recent comments stating an intention to improve things.

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[–] JoeMontana 4 points 8 points (+12|-4) ago 

Hey now, you are shitting on op's centrist are superior circlejerk. Good job.

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[–] Laurentius_the_pyro 3 points 8 points (+11|-3) ago  (edited ago)

But op is an Enlightened tm Rational tm Skeptic tm

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[–] AndrewBlazeIt 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago  (edited ago)

Centerism is the only position for logical faggets mane

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[–] armday2day 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Brilliant! Now that those that disagree with you are evil, we can murder said group with full moral superiority. There is no nuance after all.

Furthermore, you can talk about liberals being as evil as you want, but I haven't seen a major movement to destroy the federal reserve become part of either side.

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[–] coopzy 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

OP is just saying to have a healthy sense of skepticism. Questioning claims and wanting real proof for arguments isn't elitist or self congratulatory. Of course there's a fucking circle jerk here, anyone can see it.

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[–] NotHereForPizza 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Careful. The problems centrists tend to make revolves around the middle ground fallacy - argumentum ad temperantiam.

I don't intend to contend your position, OP. In fact, I think it's a great point. However, I want to warn people that think the middle is always the comfiest.

I don't want to get into the false dilemma that often is the bipartisan party system, but I think we need to know that individual cases need to be treated individually, and that if we go into all of these political talks loaded with our false dilemmas and our golden means, we will certainly encounter a great deal of difficulty.

To learn philosophy is to learn to discuss politics. If you can't get a firm grasp on philosophy first, you're wasting your time with political discussion. Why, you ask? Because politics demands pragmatism. Can I prove it? Sure, examine the changes to taxation and welfare (our current social state) since the freedom to vote was reluctantly bestowed upon our ovarian overlords.

Logic and pragmatism are political tools which when forgotten lead to political decadence.

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[–] TeranNotTerran [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This is very well said, thank you for replying. I understand what you are saying and I am not at all a centrist. I don't care about "middle of the road" solutions. I care about considering views regardless of whether you agree with them or not. Having consistent levels of self-doubt and curiousity.

And you are right, any decent form of politics should start with philosophy. Of course that can bring you to some very dark or very interesting places depending on your philosophies.

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[–] BeHereNow 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Perfect explanation.

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[–] Crashmarik 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

The American inventors results are a different matter. Seems you are trying to use one guy's bad example to discredit a much larger issue

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[–] JoeMontana 5 points 0 points (+5|-5) ago  (edited ago)

It's the typical anti conservative thread that gets posted and upvote brigaded once a week. It's meant to make people in the middle feel special for not being an "non thinking conservative" as op put it. He can take this shit and stick it up his ass.

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[–] TeranNotTerran [S] 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Yup. I'm definitely anti conservative. You've read my Voat posts, my blog posts, and this is what you come up with?

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[–] TeranNotTerran [S] 5 points -2 points (+3|-5) ago 

No, I am not. The results are made up only of the content they index. And I think most English content will say "African American" and not "American". Any white, American inventors are a given and that's left out. DuckDuckGo and Google show this similarly.

It's unfortunate but I don't think that is any particular ploy by Google. Now maybe I am wrong and I'm open to that. But in general I think people believe these search engines are much more hand tailored than they really are. I think Google's News section is most likely tailored but you really have to get into the how and why it works before you can start to understand whether the bias is in the content creators or in the search engine itself.

Though as @InverseLardo pointed out, there's an article with some real testing and thought: http://www.unz.com/isteve/great-moments-in-google-american-inventors/

I haven't read that as thoroughly asI could have. I may have missed something from it.

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[–] everlastingphelps 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

It's called Confirmation Bias. It is part of human nature. You, in fact, are likely in a degree of confirmation bias here, because you self-identify as a Reasonable Moderate, so you are going to latch onto evidence that shows that both extremes are wrong and tend to ignore evidence that one is more right than the other.

The real redpill is to realize how persuasion and identity works, and how easily people in general are manipulated with that knowledge.

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[–] coopzy 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Take a look at OP's subs and projects. I don't know if he identifies as moderate.

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[–] con77 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

libtards do it 100x more while screaming racist and nazi at anyone that doesnt agree with them

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[–] heygeorge 5 points 6 points (+11|-5) ago 

Thank you. Well said. There is enough evidence; enough real things to complain about without just circling the jerk.

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[–] TeranNotTerran [S] 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Haha, I like it!

Edit: If it really is normal, why is it called the alt?

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