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[–] Naught405 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

the levelling of mountain and valley exalted to a morality

The homogenization of mankind exalted to diversity

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[–] Whitemail 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

You can't make dumb people smart, so you have to restrain and inhibit the smart people to level everything.

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[–] greycloud 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

can you please remind me what his solution to the problem of nihilism was?

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[–] Nietzsche__ 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Making better generations of people until they are more than what we are now.

In other words, bettering yourself and your children so that someday man can be more than it is now.

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[–] TheDaoReveals 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Hate to burst your bubble OP but Nietzsche was discussing classical liberalism, which is very different from modern political liberalism and closer to what Americans would call conservative values. You could argue that he was actually more to the right than the "right" of his day if you like the guy, but spinning it as though he was discussing modern ideologies is either incorrect or dishonest.

Bonus: He also said nice things about the Jews.

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[–] ikacer 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Occasionally you find a liberal who is honest about this.

Roger Baldwin, the founder of the ACLU, elucidated this position in a 1930s essay explaining how he could support Stalin in the Soviet Union while supporting civil liberties in the US:

In Soviet Russia, despite the rigid controls and suppression of opposition, the regime is dominated by the economic needs of workers and peasants. Their economic power, even when unorganized, is the force behind it. Their liberties won by the Revolution are the ultimate dictators of Soviet policy. In this lies the chief justification for the hope that, with the increasing share by the masses in all activities of life, the rigors of centralized dictatorship will be lessened and the creative forces given free rein. Peasants and workers are keenly aware of their new liberties won by the Revolution. Anywhere you can hear voiced their belief that, whatever their criticism and discontent, that they are “free.” And they constitute over ninety percent of the Russian people. Such an attitude as I express toward the relation of economic to civil liberty may easily be construed as condoning in Russia repressions which I condemn in capitalist countries. It is true that I feel differently about them, because I regard them as unlike. Repressions in western democracies are weapons of struggle in a transition period to socialism. The society the Communists seek to create will be freed of class struggle — if achieved — and therefore of repression.

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[–] 100100011001 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

So ... repression is bad when capitalists do it and good when workers do it. Got it, that makes sense.

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[–] 10003167? 5 points 3 points (+8|-5) ago  (edited ago)

Good ol' Fred "If this migraine doesn't kill me I am not dead" Nietzsche. Why are conditions like seizures, headaches, suicide and other forms of disability used to give our prophets gravits? If they aren't dying in a mental institution they are killing themselves because their novel is rejected or they are married to Courtney Love. Its like being hit with a shitstorm of gimps.

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[–] 10000-20000 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

u wot

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[–] 10010324? 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

What?

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[–] Urist_Joyce 4 points -2 points (+2|-4) ago 

N by the end of his life was literarly eating his own shit, raving mad and having his work "reworked" by another dude because he was literarly THAT crazy. To N's defence that was because of syphilis he contracted at an early age from amorous adventures at a brothel.

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[–] Ho-Chi-Min-Me 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Everything you wrote is dogshit. Nietzsche probably had a brain tumor. The syphilis story is propaganda from WWII that you're repeating for some reason.

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[–] 10003996? 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Same problem that turned Oscar Wilde's teeth black. A great argument for better regulated brothels.

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[–] Urist_Joyce 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I'll chime in since I've been reading some of his work's lately.

This quote seems to contradict a lot of his theories. On ThusSpoke for example liberty is one of the major "driving" forces of Zarat's power. He is simply Capable of doing his ascetic/prophetic/uberman spreading work since nobody is willing to confront him and actively stop him from doing so. He is free but the remaining humans whom he mocks and tryes to "save" aren't denying him because of liberalism, but of their own free will, molded through society and its general effects on humans. The same that is said here can be applyed to any goverment form as a mean to control the masses and produce work through undermining citizens to their basic animalistic needs/morals.

Much like the rope juggler in ThusSpoke, I think it is best to find the balance point between Liberalism and Authoritarian type of institutions. And of course I don't mean promoting hideous degeneracy the likes of which we see the last years in the Western world. But liberalism has some elements us humans shouldn't be so quick to denounce.

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[–] goat2017 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Everyone should read Nietzsche. Even if you end up disagreeing, you'll look at things differently.

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[–] 22jam22 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Have u tried reading it. I read a alot and it is very difficult reading. I tried didnt get to far but when ever i see his quotes etc i normaly agree with them.

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[–] goat2017 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It is certainly difficult. It often references other philosophical ideas that you need to know about beforehand. I read through most philosophical works very slowly because its not really my education background. I read a passage, write notes and go look things up. Not "light reading". There are also plenty of summaries available on youtube that you can learn from.

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[–] boekanier 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Plato also knew it. "On democracy, tyranny follows".

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