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[–] martiny 0 points 153 points (+153|-0) ago 

Voat is so........... unique. But at the same time................... similar to reddit.

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[–] v 0 points 97 points (+97|-0) ago 

Well, we did want redditors to migrate here...

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[–] supertom 0 points 99 points (+99|-0) ago 

Redditor here, checking in. Even got the same username.

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[–] abpples 26 points 17 points (+43|-26) ago 

Voat's new censorship

Downvoating is what reddit uses to silence dissenting views.

People don't typically upvoat, even if they like something. They will just look at it.

But when people get butthurt or see things they don't like they DO DOWNVOAT. You're assuming that people use both buttons the same way.

Voating is a censorship tool because it doesn't depend on rational argumentation. It only depends on CONSENSUS. That's why SRS use downvoat brigades because they know it's only purpose is to censor content they don't want seen by others.

Look, our entire political system should make it more practical. We don't let everyone vote in elections for a good reason: we know that retards are the majority of people. You want Bill Gate's educated vote negated by some homeless retard on the street? That's EXACTLY what democratic voting does. That's exactly what the movie Idiocracy was about. When you give everyone an equal say, you negate the point of education. You negate the point of rational argumentation. If a baby can negate the vote of an adult, then you don't really need to learn how to think. All you need to do is make people agree with you. And bribery is the fastest way to agreement.

Since people tend to downvoat when they're butthurt and engaged in censorship, the best way to combat censorship would be to only allow UPVOATING since people will actively have to champion what they believe rather than focus on what they want to complain about and censor. You can look at upvoating as positive censorship since it at least puts the burden on the upvoater to be accountable to their views and say what they prefer instead of simply complaining about what they don't want.

Stating what you want to happen takes EDUCATION AND EFFORT. Complaining about what you don't want just requires the ability to be butthurt.

I'd rather err on the side of positive censorship if we have to censor at all. We already know how negative censorship turns out: it becomes reddit.

At least positive censorship requires EFFORT that keyboard warriors aren't willing to invest. So if we want to make this place different from reddit, we should ONLY have an upvoat button.

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[–] MarkTheNerd 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

That was a bad idea it seems.

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[–] CynicalCunt 0 points 38 points (+38|-0) ago 

Honestly, who doesn't want a fresh start every now and then. Reddit has been going downhill for a long time and even if no drama had come up it still would have died out to something newer. It's the natural way of things.

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[–] Moringa 1 points 30 points (+31|-1) ago 

What's interesting is that Reddit didn't replace Digg because it was pretty/shinier or better technology -- it replaced it because it was less controlled by corporate and it's users had more freedom. So even if voat is not a significant improvement over reddit, it can still supplant it simply through policy. We'll see what happens. But I'm registered and poking around now :) So far so good.

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[–] arebokert 0 points 23 points (+23|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It's all about the people running the site. The owners of voat don't seem to be stupid idiots like pao and her minions which is really all that matters.

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[–] eatingham 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

they're from switzerland. obviously that means they are superior.

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[–] Amanda_Hugenkiss 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Are any of the original creators of Reddit still in control? If Voat is successful it will definitely by a hard balance to strike. Unless we can community fund the site, they will always need investment form VC's, and they will want returns.

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[–] numa_numa 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Let's hope they keep the vision the same and not let big corporate influence the way the experience should be

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[–] graysoon 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

The user experience is so familiar, as a former redditor I feel like I'm at home here already.

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[–] Amanda_Hugenkiss 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

No, RES though... Although that may have only helped the demise of Reddit by encouraging low effort image reposts and memes.

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[–] Wooblegop 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Damn right. Even if it's not exact, I'm staying because it's more tight knit than Reddit already. It's been around a while, but I like seeing "3000 subscribers" on a subre... ahem subverse.

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[–] FailedLuddite 0 points 45 points (+45|-0) ago 

Hi, I'm new. Reddit can go to hell. I'm on the voat boat!! :D

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[–] neal 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

All aboard!

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[–] SpacePuncher 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

choo choo?

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[–] SuperSarah 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Maa-aa-aaa-aaa!

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[–] ronsor 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

the voat boat can't handle all the users, so its sinking until it can get more boats

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[–] Goldenape 0 points 27 points (+27|-0) ago 

I made it, I like my new home is cozy.

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[–] ILikeCyan 0 points 26 points (+26|-0) ago 

So this is voat. Wow.

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[–] TacticalJello 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Once you're used to how it works and how the interface is laid out, I'm sure it's nice.

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[–] Kwisatz_Haderach 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

For a start, I think night mode looks a lot nicer than day mode.

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[–] SleeplessinOslo 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

I won't lie, I really miss Reddit Enhancement Suit

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[–] carb0n 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago 

I'm new, but it seems to me that voat already has kinda an enhancement suit built in? You even see how much up and downvotes each comment gets, it feels like seeing again after beeing blind.

I like my new home.

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[–] LeoMeredith 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I, also, am new, but Voat doesn't seem to have any keyboard navigation (which RES always told me was an under-utilised feature).

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[–] whiskeyx 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

*Suite

But yes I missed it instantly.

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[–] AviatorPrincess 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Mentioned this up above, but voat is still in alpha, so there is still hope that they implement a lot of the RES features into vanilla voat before it's "official."

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[–] Russsellll 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I get it finally. This is the voat version of circlejerk

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[–] ImLying 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Well, we do have /v/circlejerk as well.

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[–] Tsonius 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Inb4 ddos!

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[–] Kaukamieli 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

So. What ere biggest diffs with Voat and Reddit?

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[–] Edapurg 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I literally just made my account, but as far as I can tell the biggest difference is that you need to get upvotes (upvoats?) yourself before you can vote on posts.

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[–] AviatorPrincess 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It's something about only having 10 upvoats before you get more or something? I can't find the exacts, but I'm curious as well.

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