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[–] SmokeyMeadow 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Make Istanbul Constantinople again. They Might Be Giants can perform Istanbul (Not Constantinople) in reverse to commemorate the occasion.

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[–] Drkadrka [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yeah, I can not go to Turkey until Constantinople is retaken and the Islamist Government has fallen, but that's a concert I would be willing to travel a day for.

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[–] KrakenCentaur 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

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[–] pipispapas 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

read Steven Runciman's The fall of Constantinople .

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[–] Drkadrka [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Pretty sure I have in high school. It covers how we neglected the threat and allowed the degradation of the culture and unity of the people of the Eastern Roman empire and were then shocked when it fell right? If it's the one I'm thinking of, it casts some interesting parallels if viewed through the lens of modern times.

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[–] LuciusL 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Fucking THANK YOU. I read this comment on my phone, googled the book out of curiosity.

Now i'm sitting reading it and i've dug back through my history just to find this comment and say you kick ass. This is exactly what i wanted to read: A liberal smattering of narrative history with heavy topical intonation. Fucking don't stop being awesome

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[–] pipispapas 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

lol I had to google the word smattering but I still don't understand what you are saying. Greek historians use this book as a reference. I can't see any liberalism, narrative history was the norm in the 60s, and topical intonation is actually a good thing for a history book

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[–] gauss_markov 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Deus Vult!!

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[–] Subarukayak 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

When we take it back, we should raze it like Carthage.

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[–] maxoverdrive 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Biggest fucking mistake Europe ever made. Not only did they not support the Byzantines, they actually destroyed the fucking city and looted it. Bunch of short-sighted assholes....

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[–] MrRain 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Fuck Christianity. As for western civilization sure but Christianity is shit they were the same as muslims around that time murdering anyone who wasnt christian. Even today they protect pedophiles and hang on to stolen property of individuals in their archives. They are a shitstain on humanity and are nothing more than a invading culture and jewish religion in europe. As for sacrifices made i can respect men who gave their lives in war. I cant respect christianity for it is a cancer that corrupted humanity just like the other 2 jewish religions islam and judaism. Also fun fact civlizations existed long before the existence of christianity and islamism in europe.