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[–] AnmanIndustries 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

"a business is like jumping out of an airplane without a parachute. In mid air, the entrepreneur begins building a parachute and hopes it opens before hitting the ground.” – Robert Kiyosaki

Most people are not business people, thus they do not know how to build the parachute, even though they have the plane.

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[–] WhiteRonin [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Cash flow quadrant :-) live by that code!

Still think good ol'Roberto is but of con artist but he did have those 2 good books which alone make him ok by me!

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[–] AnmanIndustries 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Every time you buy something you don't need or will stop enjoying after a few days, you have been conned. He made money and he did it well. Rich Dad is a great book and I always give it to young people as a starting point. Using those principles he just made more money. He is a BEST SELLING AUTHOR, not just an AUTHOR after all. Which is what is happening here.

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[–] Turnip_Time 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

So what you're saying is that the best way to run a business is by first joining the army where they pack your parachute for you before you jump.

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[–] AnmanIndustries 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

When you join the army, your employee is the government, therefore, you do not own the business. But, in china, it is common to take someone else s parachute and jump out of your own plane.

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[–] 9142686? 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I can't add much to your post, but I wanna say: After this all blows over, we need to see transparency with the monetary expenditure. His identity is known, so I don't think he'll do stupid things with our money, but since it's such a small site, he may as well benefit from others' ideas/tips/advice. And we really need to know where our money's going.

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[–] WhiteRonin [S] 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I'm all for him trying to turn this into a business and then a payout. But throwing out 6k and not expecting a user base being as based and red pilled like voat to go ok ... And not being transparent like you said is rather strange.

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[–] Dark_Shroud 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I was hoping Brave would have their ad revenue sharing system up and running by now. I would only browse using them and giving tips for Voat that way.

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[–] 9142885? 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Oh yeah. He should be able to make a little extra money. We just need to know about it.

It is strange, isn't it? Very odd. We haven't bugged him enough about it (also strange). This time will be the last time.

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[–] Donbuster 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Yes. Thank you. I've been asking for this for a while now. Sadly, things have gotten worse, not better, since atko resigned

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[–] Donbuster 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yo, on the subject of starting paralysis, im trying to overcome that hump here. We would appreciate your expertise
https://voat.co/v/SavingVoat/1866511

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[–] 1moar 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Beat me by about an hour.

Interested in monthly bandwidth and storage especially. I have some resources.

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[–] WhiteRonin [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Lol, not trying to go for the big I'm first but rather want to see some transparency. Even if he wants to start a company which I think k would be smart!

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[–] caprep 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

What is the biggest cost right now? Bandwidth? Memory? CPU? Disk?

If we knew the biggest issue we could focus on that first.

Is Putt running the same sized instances all the time, or scaling up / down instances as traffic demands it?

Suggestions:

Bandwidth - Make all images WebP and save ~25% of image bandwidth right away.

Bandwidth idea 2 - Minify the HTML. There are a lot of long class names in the code and extraneous spaces. I'm sure we could easily get a 20% bandwidth savings from the main HTML.

Disk - Take old posts, put them into a torrent and delete them from voat. If people want them they can host them.

CPU - Most of the visitors probably aren't logged in. Why not compile a static HTML page every 30 seconds and save it to disk. When a non-logged in visitor views the main page give them the stored one. Same with comments on popular articles. The page doesn't need to be up to the second

Memory - Most all of the suggestions above should help, especially the pre-compute option.

There are a number of quick things we can do to relive the pressure, we just need to know where to aim our autism.

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[–] WhiteRonin [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yep, yep and more yeps ...

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[–] prairie 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

A nice aspect of seeing costs is seeing how much some features really cost, and being able to decide that they aren't worth it and choose to forego them.

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[–] WhiteRonin [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

So very true!

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[–] pushthis 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Queso, voats budget and costs is questionex and gou wanna expand via capitalism. I gotta better idea. Get free developers with a git. Sell voat merch on the dark webz. Work towards oneday being a server/client enabled network so no real hosting perse is needed... You know revolutionize shit.

Whiteronin, i got no problem with you but your roadmap is off. Stay free. We need no pulling in of new accts via advertisments. Subculture is what subculture does.

No payout. Fuck that logic. Info = free. The day voat is decentralized and coded by the world for free will be a bigger victory than twitter or fakeoidbook

Amazons cloud, pervasive computing it was called... Is the same tech in the cia's machines.. If you gotta kindle it can be ssh'n a cia server without you knowing.. Remember the free 3g they offered?

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[–] WhiteRonin [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I have absolutely no problem with your roadmap beyond the fact that even reddit didn't follow through with their own tangent ... getting people on board who can start the base code isn't that easy, which is why I am advocating a quick fix and then spend the time to work on the version that you envision.

IF you don't use ads, you could have an off site that linked to affiliates like amazon that people could access easily and monthly since so many people shop on amaon now ... the only issue is if amazon would sell out that affiliate or not.

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[–] elcob32 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Nobody likes .net so we go to another language

For the record I like .Net, if there is a way I can contribute to the Voat code base, I'm on board.

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[–] WhiteRonin [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

voat has a github repo ... nobody has been interested in it, it seems ...

I've actually heard boat loads of good shit about .net and I have been on and off on learning it but just too spread out to pick up another language unless it means I'll be able to turn into a monetary advantage. I'm a M$ hater but I will admit that when they do good they do good!

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[–] elcob32 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I didn't say I'm an M$ fan. I develop in Mono on Linux, but M$ bought out Xamarin so thats M$ now too. Anyway, I've been using it since .Net was in beta. I can do pretty much anything in C#.

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