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[–] RodentLord 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Yep, I knew you weren't talking to me, just elaborating. I was just trying to make the point of "memorize some facts before you start talking shit, or else you look like a fucking retard". Which I understand memorizing facts comes hard to some people, but that just means you should keep your mouth shut if you disagree but don't have facts to support it.

One lesson I learn daily and reiterate to myself on an hourly basis is: Knowledge is power, and when you speak without thinking, you're giving someone else knowledge about yourself and gaining nothing. That is to say, you give away your power every time you open your mouth, and the people around you become stronger.

You stand only to gain from silent reflection before speaking. You'd be amazed how much money this can make you too, from people who are nervous and think that you considering their offer means that they should undercut themselves. You can literally make people negotiate for you by just shutting up, it's real world magic.

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[–] WeKangzNow ago  (edited ago)

Very interesting, I'll have to remember that one. I'm personally less interested in power and more interested in truth (while there does exist an interplay between the two, especially depending on how one defines power), but it works either way.

Really cool. I'm thinking of many wise people who have basically said the same thing, that could be embodied in that powerful visualization.

Edit: oh wow... I actually visualized your words and then thought you said them. Either way, good stuff.

As I read, "Knowledge is power, and when you speak without thinking, you're giving someone else knowledge about yourself and gaining nothing. That is to say, you give away your power every time you open your mouth, and the people around you become stronger." I instinctually visualized a person spewing out their spirit and others sucking it in. So in speaking, it was advantageous to speak only as truthfully, reflective and brief as possible, as to not allow your spirit to be sucked in by others, and only exert the spirit that is excess created through reflection and knowledge.

That's a testament to your words and me being deep in studying symbolism, metaphors, etc. I see them everywhere now, haha. Not as easy and concise as Mr. Smith effect, so I'll need to hone that sentiment into a better and easier visualization. (I'm very certain there are ones floating out there.)

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[–] RodentLord 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I think actually what you are imagining is... Perhaps not the "opposite" of what I meant, but it lies perpendicular to what I was saying. This is more what I was getting at (with accompanying visual). Being a loser or clueless is easy, because it comes from a misunderstanding of the Rules of the Game and a desire to do well. "Sociopath" sounds negative, but it's as negative as what you do with it.

Even if you only ever tell the unvarnished truth, there's still a great deal of power in keeping that truth mostly to yourself until it's necessary and selectively giving it out. In fact, if you only ever tell the truth, what you don't say becomes way more powerful in other people's minds because they know you only speak the truth, so what you don't say means as much (to them) as what you say.

Essentially the idea is that the more you define yourself verbally, the less of an unknown quantity you are, and the less they feel the need to think about/consider you. If you're by and large an unknown quantity, they'll deliberate over how to approach you over something for a long time, and by virtue of them thinking about you, you become important to them. They'll make up their own reason for why you're important in their head, but that doesn't matter to you. What matters to you is how they treat you, which will be with respect and caution.

It sounds like you and I are a bit opposites. I have a very concrete, literal worldview, which has only recently begun to open up to the non-physical (which even then I loop my head around and convince myself that we live within the spiritual realm to justify how so little makes sense when modeled in a physical world; we don't exist there, so of course things don't make sense if you assume that's where we are). You seem to have a very imaginative, visual mind, quite unlike my own.