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[–] cyclops1771 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

From my understanding, the British would ship casks of regular old Pale Ale to India (think Bass Ale), but after 6-9 months in the hold of a ship being sloshed about in 100+ degree temperatures, they found that the beer arrived stale and tasteless, and lacking some alcohol.

So, brewers doing what brewers do, they made an over-hopped, over malted beer, and shipped it off, expecting it to lose enough flavor and taste on the trip to arrive in India tasting like a regular old Pale.

Well, sailors being sailors, they cracked into the casks right away, and enjoyed the overflavored beer, especially when you figure their daily ration was basically wormy tack and salted pork.

Personally, I say, "One more victory for the Royal Navy!"

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[–] ShittyAdvice 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Dark beers matter

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[–] ShineShooter 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

You're dreaming of the timeline where Germany won WWII. Lots of their best brewers died in our history.

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[–] rocketrouser 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

We need more Rauchbiers for our liters. Fill my drink with smoke and bacon and we will drink till morning round the flame!

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[–] Fenrirwulf 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Most craft breweries work on a seasonal schedule to constantly have a changing lineup. Spring and Summer is when all the IPAs and shandies come out. They will also usually produce a light colored, lower alcohol beer called a 'session' or 'lawn mower' beer for chugging back to back to back. Come fall and winter you will see more porters and stouts. Come Christmas you will start see the 'winter-warmers' which are dark, high alcohol brews with added spices to well, warm you up after being outside in the cold.

I am an avid craft beer geek, and I hate most IPAs. I don't like the grapefruit flavored hops. I have had a few IPAs that strayed away from the big 3 C American hops, usually called English style IPAs, and found them to be much more palatable. I often will find myself cutting back on beer during the summer months because the selection on tap houses are so overwhelmed with IPAs. If I drink anything it will usually be Highland Brewing St Terese, or Sierra Nevada's Pale Ale. Again, those are not IPAs, they are simply pale ale without being overloaded with hops. Once fall rolls around and the dark beers start showing up, I find myself at bars more often wondering why I hadn't been drinking as much the last couple months.

Luckily for me there is a really good brewery a couple hours for me that is much more malt centered in their recipes so if needed I can always run up there to restock the beer fridge.

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[–] Eleutheria 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Highland

Mah nigga. Love their Black Mocha Stout.

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[–] dontforgetaboutevil [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I live in one of the darkest dankest dreariest parts of the United States. There really aren't any seasons here. 9 months of the year is a rainy dark winter. There is a short summer but even then it still rains to damned much. My point is that by your explanation shouldn't this then be the homeland of dark beers? But it's all IPA's. All year long.

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[–] art-of-xxx 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

haha sounds like vancouver! When it rained, I would find myself wandering to the Irish Heather, poor me...

(also, I like my Guinness warm, love Killkenny when I'm too full to have a Guinness and this really niiiice Jamaican stout called Dragon Stout, love it, but the bubbles burn my tongue! and Boddingtons Bitter is good'nuff in a pinch)(I really hate Guinness bottled by Labatts in the bottle, sooo shitty tasting)

Mindyou, now I'm drinking tequila, so gofigure!

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[–] Fenrirwulf 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Pretty much breweries all across the US follow the same schedule, so your locals are most likely just riding the fad cycle because that is what they think the market wants. I don't understand it myself, a nice cold stout is still more refreshing and cooling to me than some over hopped IPA.

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[–] cyclops1771 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

First,10 years ago, your beer shelves contained 40 rows of Bud Light, 30 rows of Miller Lite, and 20 rows of Coors Light. And hen you had 1 4 foot shelf with everything else - Mexican, Irish, English and craft.

Second, fuck you! IPAs are excellent beers.

Third, you can find Guinness pretty much everywhere. Also not the case 10 years ago. It is the nectar of the gods. Just enjoy it if you want one.

Fourth, I am still a faggot if I like a "flavored" porter? Like 512's Pecan porter, or Dangerous Man's PBP or CMS? Or Sweet Baby Jesus by Duclaw?

Fifth, who the fuck made you the gatekeeper for what "real men" drink?

Finally, now that we took it outside and took a few punches, where you want to meet so I can buy you a drink?

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[–] dontforgetaboutevil [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

First,10 years ago, your beer shelves contained 40 rows of Bud Light, 30 rows of Miller Lite, and 20 rows of Coors Light. And hen you had 1 4 foot shelf with everything else - Mexican, Irish, English and craft.

This is probably the only time I've ever seen capitalism work properly. What I think happened is that the big brewers had to face stiff competition from cocaine and marijuana. They needed to lure in a more sophisticated and druggie crowd. That's just my theory. I remember when they came out with the "ice" stuff that preceded the microbrews. It was the only booze that would make me put down the bong for an evening.

Second, fuck you! IPAs are excellent beers.

I do not hate IPA's. But you gotta admit 7 fucking brands of IPA to 1 brand of any dark beer is just bullshit!

Fourth, I am still a faggot if I like a "flavored" porter? Like 512's Pecan porter, or Dangerous Man's PBP or CMS? Or Sweet Baby Jesus by Duclaw?

Borderline. It's pretty close to the edge.

Fifth, who the fuck made you the gatekeeper for what "real men" drink?

Odin

Finally, now that we took it outside and took a few punches, where you want to meet so I can buy you a drink?

Some place that has dark beer!!

Oh yeah

Third, you can find Guinness pretty much everywhere. Also not the case 10 years ago. It is the nectar of the gods. Just enjoy it if you want one.

Guinness is ok in a pinch. It's a damn good beer. But for me it's the baseline. It's my budweiser.

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[–] cyclops1771 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I'll meet you at McSorley's in NYC. They have two beers on tap. Light and Dark. That's it.

This post reminds me of the beer version of "Sideways," with Dark Beer = "Pinot" and IPA = "FUCKING MERLOT".

IN just 20 years, we went from "God, Bud Light is awful, can we get something with flavor?" where if I wanted a craft beer, I had to hunt a place down, and then when I had something like Great Lakes Edmund Fitzgerald or Burning River, people would say, "That's gross!" to a place where IPA is prevalent everywhere, and something I liked before others is "ruined" by over producing it, because, frankly, it's freaking delicious. I'm just happy things swung my way and I can enjoy something different all the time. Although, when you go to a craft beer bar with 40 BEERS ON TAP!!!! And 28 are varieties of IPA, 10 varieties of fruity Belgians or ciders, and 1 stout or porter, I can see your point.

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[–] daskapitalist 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I would love if imperial stouts were as plentiful as IPAs.

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[–] Fambida 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

What's your favourite? I've been a Samuel Smith Imperial Stout fan for a long time now.

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[–] daskapitalist 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Perennial Brewing Company's "Abraxas" is the best Imperial Stout I've ever had:

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/25888/76393/

Founder's KBS is a very close second: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1199/19960/

Never had Samuel Smith's Imperial Stout, but I'll definitely put it on my wish list.

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[–] HenryDavidThoreau 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

If i can see through a glass of it, its for ladies.

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