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In Baghdad, prior to 2003, under Saddam, the murder rate was less than 10 per year. Back then, any Westerner could have visited, and been safe. Even after the invasion, there were several people from the civil defense and military that wanted to keep Iraq stable and were bringing their forces to corporate in joint forces. Some of the higher ranking officers even spoke English and wanted to work directly with Garner, Wilkerson, Bodine, et. al.
Bush/Rummy/Cheney installed total idiots, dismantled the highly skilled reconstructions I just mentioned, and replaced them with college interns and morons that formed the provision authority (CPA). Under them, the country fell to pieces.
Had this happened in America, it would have also fallen to pieces. Fuck just look around on Voat. The US is a god damn powder keg. State propaganda and domestic security forces are the only thing holding this country together. They're well funded and hold it together quite well, at the expense of us having the highest incarceration rate of any country in the world, as well as the most misinformed public out of any country in the world.
I highly recommend documentary Iraq No End in Sight, which deals with the reconstruction.
Iraq The Untold Story is a great documentary about an American who visits Iraq after the invasion. He interviews several people, including Iraqi land mind defusers, travels between both Baghdad and the semi-autonomous northern region.
As an American this here is what I would hope we all would say. Invade us?! You'll get shit till you leave or die! However their hostility to the west isn't what the issue is. This is a border issue, closing the border to combative immigrants. Regardless of the actions of the previous POTUS or before that you disagree with. We still have family here at home.
Iraq accused Kuwait of stealing their oil using slant drilling. Iraq also had incentive to extract money from Kuwait over this given their massive debts to the US over the Iraq Iran war. I am not saying they were right to invade Kuwait but this is the reason the Iraqi regime cited for taking action.
Now, when you bring up Kuwait with regard to the US one of the more important facts to consider is why we entered the conflict.
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[–] LazarusLong 0 points 13 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago
Well, we did invade their country.
I'm pretty sure I'd shoot an Iraqi belligerent on American soil.
[–] djsumdog 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
In Baghdad, prior to 2003, under Saddam, the murder rate was less than 10 per year. Back then, any Westerner could have visited, and been safe. Even after the invasion, there were several people from the civil defense and military that wanted to keep Iraq stable and were bringing their forces to corporate in joint forces. Some of the higher ranking officers even spoke English and wanted to work directly with Garner, Wilkerson, Bodine, et. al.
Bush/Rummy/Cheney installed total idiots, dismantled the highly skilled reconstructions I just mentioned, and replaced them with college interns and morons that formed the provision authority (CPA). Under them, the country fell to pieces.
Had this happened in America, it would have also fallen to pieces. Fuck just look around on Voat. The US is a god damn powder keg. State propaganda and domestic security forces are the only thing holding this country together. They're well funded and hold it together quite well, at the expense of us having the highest incarceration rate of any country in the world, as well as the most misinformed public out of any country in the world.
I highly recommend documentary Iraq No End in Sight, which deals with the reconstruction.
Iraq The Untold Story is a great documentary about an American who visits Iraq after the invasion. He interviews several people, including Iraqi land mind defusers, travels between both Baghdad and the semi-autonomous northern region.
[–] eqi397 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
well said
[–] MGTOW_Monk 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago
As an American this here is what I would hope we all would say. Invade us?! You'll get shit till you leave or die! However their hostility to the west isn't what the issue is. This is a border issue, closing the border to combative immigrants. Regardless of the actions of the previous POTUS or before that you disagree with. We still have family here at home.
[–] 7931669? 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago (edited ago)
Forget Kuwait? Pretty much what started this all...
[–] LazarusLong 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
If Kuwait could be considered connected at all, it certain isn't the beginning.
Also, I don't give a shit about Kuwait or the people that live there.
[–] LewsTherinTelamon 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
I remember Kuwait.
Iraq accused Kuwait of stealing their oil using slant drilling. Iraq also had incentive to extract money from Kuwait over this given their massive debts to the US over the Iraq Iran war. I am not saying they were right to invade Kuwait but this is the reason the Iraqi regime cited for taking action.
Now, when you bring up Kuwait with regard to the US one of the more important facts to consider is why we entered the conflict.
Kuwaiti Diplomat's daughter Nayirah lies during testimony to drum up support for the war.