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[–] Artofchoke 4 points 99 points (+103|-4) ago 

It doesn't jibe with anything from witness accounts - how did three shooters become two become Syrians become a little white boy? I dunno what to say, media got me paranoid. 🐐

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[–] Gorillion 2 points 45 points (+47|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Hijacking top comment. Found an interesting take on KIA, over on Peddit. KIA is a non-SJW zone and seems largely shill free at the moment from what I could suss out with a quick scan.

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/5r4wo4/understanding_the_mosqueshooting_in_quebec_from_a/

Paraphrasing. A local Quebec dude believes this may have been a Quebec Nationalist thing. Apparently Quebec has along history of this shit that not many people know about. Other commenters mention bombings back in the 60s.

The long and the short of it is that this is a corner of Canada that is fiercely protective of it's French identity, and seems like they see the muslim invasion as yet another example of their culture being assaulted. Can't disagree with them there. Could be that Trudeau's proposed law to ban criticism of islam may have been what set the guy off.

See how it pans out, but this is the first thing I've read where it sounds like someone may actually have a handle on the logic behind the attack, other than it being some kind of false flag or the media narrative spin obscuring too much important information. As others have said, it's doubtful the guy did this alone. But they have him alive and maybe we'll get some real info.

Anyway, a big hearty "fuck you" to all the "It was a white guy, why aren't we talking about this!!!?" concern trolls and shills. What sort of digging did you do, you fucking cunts? Just sat on you cunt asses and demand we all fall in with your world view. Go eat more dicks, you fucks.

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[–] Artofchoke 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

Used to live in upstate New York and we'd hear about these people from time to time - separatists who refuse to use English, and aren't welcoming to outsiders. I've no idea what would possess a bunch of fucking Muslims to set up shop in such a place, but they do seem to thrust themselves into improper circumstances frequently. This is all necessary, these things will happen as we push back. Thanks for the info, goat. 💖

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[–] Violentlight [S] 4 points 4 points (+8|-4) ago 

Americans see the French as pussies.

Fuck man, in Canada, you don't mess with the French. Quebec defends its ideas and culture more then any other province in Canada. They have a ton of separate laws from the majority of Canada. You dont fuck with french Canadians.

I don't know why some of you are taking offense to the wording of my post. Literally every post that I was referring to had "white guy" in the title. If they had said "non-muslim", or "mexican" or "robots". I would have used that word. I don't give a fuck WHY the event was (seemingly) being ignored. I just wanted to talk about it.

This one matters to me more because its in Canada. We hear a lot about America. But I can only have so much input in thoughs posts because I'm up here. Ever since Justin Trudeau took office, we have a ton of stuff being covered up in our media. Something that I have first hand experience with now. So I'm involved in this one.

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[–] bob3333 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Could be that Trudeau's proposed law to ban criticism of islam may have been what set the guy off.

When Trump proposes a law that causes SJWs to riot and light fires, it's Trump's fault. When a liberal proposes a law that causes a nationalist to go on a rampage, that's Trump's fault too. See how that works?

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[–] caelaorn 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

To be fair - overestimating the number of shooters in situations like this isn't uncommon. That's happened at pretty much all the airport shooting/scares.

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[–] josco 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Maybe. Depends on particulars--in an airport, in crowds, I'd expect more confusion than in a quiet mosque where all are bowed in prayer. Witnesses should be pretty clear. Allahu Akbar! was heard. Someone said "maybe prayers said it" but it's not used that way. It's not "dear God help me" It's "God is GREATER" It's a challenge, a comparison. All hyper-pro-refugee countries like Can. esp the DAY Trudeau mocked Trump by inviting refugees? I immediately heard story and thought--oh Trudeau's a cuck but he'll change THIS narrative. This does not work for him at all. He'll lie.

Than the story magically changed.

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[–] Violentlight [S] 9 points 15 points (+24|-9) ago 

Which is why I miss the discussion so much. You get all the info that the MSM tries to hide from you when these things are openly discussed. Perhaps its because I live in Canada, but this story seems particularly sketchy. I get to watch my own MSM twist the story as it develops.

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[–] 9-11 0 points 26 points (+26|-0) ago 

What discussion? The haven't reported on it - why you may ask? They are not wanting to take the wind out of the colored revolution that is unfolding in america. If it was truly a "Dylan Roof" style mosque attack - then you tell me why isn't the MSM giving it any steam? It seems like they are saving the outrage for the day protests against Trump slow down, it's a coordinated effort with an agenda.

It really is starting to sound like a 'false flag' kind of conspiracy - it was 3 shooters all shouting alohasnackbar, then it was 2 confirmed muslims, then it was 1 white boy who wouldn't have had access to the weapons used in the attack. There just aren't many details and the ones they've released don't make any sense. Don't you feel manipulated or are you here to just gloat and play on an anti-white narrative yourself?

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[–] Artofchoke 2 points 19 points (+21|-2) ago 

This white guy supposedly leave the pig head too? Diminutive little fellow did the work of at least two guys with all those guns, in and out to reload.. it's fishy as fuck.

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[–] josco 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

See The Rebel media on You Tube. Gavin McInnes is also a skeptic. Hard to get facts, of course.

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[–] Cargo_Cult 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

You can add to the list that in French media, shooter were not fan of Trump, but fan of Marine Le Pen.

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[–] Wholewit 3 points 46 points (+49|-3) ago  (edited ago)

The whole thing is so suspicious to me. The timing with the Islamic hate-speech bill, the pulling of articles when people were saying it was a Muslim even though they apparently "knew" he was white, the lack of photographic evidence, the reports from witnesses of there being multiple shooters, etc, etc.

Anytime there's a real shooting or event, you always see photos of the during and after. Maybe there are some and I just haven't seen them posted.

I have learned over the past year from reading voat that you can't trust the media. The truth usually comes out in the coming weeks or months.

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[–] Violentlight [S] 4 points 21 points (+25|-4) ago 

Canada has had a media blackout on anything that could put the refugees in a bad light. You just don't see it on our news. The first thing you will see is the news "speculating". Generally it will be speculation that Canadian citizens are at fault for this somehow. Because of all the "rampant hate" that we have against muslims. Then if it does turn out to be news that is bad for the refugees, they move onto something else. In this case, I'm still seeing it on the news. Its a white guy, they can report on this one.

BUT, they are not reporting on the witnesses who say there were 2 masked men. The witnesses saying that the second shooter was a muslim.

Seems this particular news story was only half bad for Justin Trudeau. So he kept the part that helps his policies. Swept the other half under the rug.

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[–] GoatyMcGoatface 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Shooting up a place because you're an unwanted immigrant...how are they spinning this to even be remotely palatable?

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[–] PotatoFarm 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Interesting, so there is more about this than I expected. (Seriously, It took to long for a lunatic fed with hateful rhetoric to do something like this)

Please keep the discussion going, friend.

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[–] Artofchoke 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Why that nigga run up in there screaming aloha snackbar? Too many conflicting accounts.

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[–] josco 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

And only as a result of alternative media like The Rebel getting thrashed over it. Even wimpy Fox stood up to them for awhile. The timing is too convenient for this not to be questioned. Media have become MiniTru

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[–] Aged 0 points 32 points (+32|-0) ago 

Look, we're not censoring it. That's the difference between us and that dirty scum. If people don't want to create topics, for this or this reason, it's their own decision. It's not like Reddit that delete threads, lock comments and very probably bumps anti-trump things to the frontpage at a sickening degree. We're nothing like them.

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[–] Erotic_Monkey 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Give this man a goat.

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[–] Donbuster 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I'm sure he gets plenty on his own.

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[–] pipispapas 1 points 24 points (+25|-1) ago 

this is bullshit. the story was deliberately buried until they could cook up a suitable story that contradicts everything that was initially surfaced, and even now the story remains out of the front pages because it can't stand up to scrutiny.

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[–] Violentlight [S] 2 points 9 points (+11|-2) ago 

Ya, watching the news right now is infuriating. It HAD to show up in our news, because we do not get many shootings in Canada. So they could not just simply ignore it like they have been with the sexual assaults happening in our schools. But it seems they found a way to redirect this away from refugees and point the blame back at us Canadians.

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[–] pipispapas 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

The guy confessed on the phone and was apprehended on a bridge where he was going to jump. must be the stupidest story I've heard since a terrorist with 14 FAKE IDs took his REAL one with him on the day of the attack and then DROPPED it inside the truck he was driving to spread peace

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[–] goatsandbros 0 points 23 points (+23|-0) ago 

The difference: eddit suppresses. Not the same as us just not caring.

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[–] Violentlight [S] 11 points -2 points (+9|-11) ago 

Yes, Voat has put the responsibility in the hands of the users. So collectively ignoring something because it no longer fits the narrative is just the user-base suppressing it. There was plenty of interest in the story when it was muslims being blamed.

There are other parts of the story clearly being manipulated or covered up by the MSM, and honestly, probably the police too. Thats right up Voats alley. So it seems odd that the story died the moment a white guy was taking the heat for it.

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[–] goatsandbros 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

But you're talking about it. You're Voat, so Voat is not ignoring the matter.

You have to get used to the idea that there isn't "someone else" always running the show. Instead of complaining, do it! And you (essentially) did! Congrats.

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[–] hungry_mungry 2 points 19 points (+21|-2) ago 

Didn't give a fuck when it was a Muslim, don't give a fuck now. That simple.

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[–] gazillions 2 points 14 points (+16|-2) ago 

Motion M-103 is before the Canadian parliament. It is a sharia law. It will make it illegal to speak ill of islam in any way. This guy probably just had enough.

I don't support his actions, but only because he chose the wrong target. Canadian politicians are spitting on every single non muslim now and they're doing it deliberately.

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[–] Violentlight [S] 3 points 7 points (+10|-3) ago 

I know. I heard about M-103. Absolutely terrifying. Trudeau has guaranteed a Conservative government for at least 4 years. He has tanked the Liberals. Its going to take them a very long time to try and come back from this. When Canada inevitably gets tired of the Conservatives again, it might even go to NDP. Trudeau is dangerous for Canada.

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[–] gazillions 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

Oh fuck no to the NDP. They wanted to legislate the government providing free suicide services to depressed teenagers. They're full on retarded progressive Soros clowns, as much as the liberals are.

The conservates either elect a true conservative or it's a third party. That seems like a guaranteed win to me.

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[–] josco 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

They don't either, to be fair. That's why I get so angry about this stuff

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