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[–] jerry 0 points 69 points (+69|-0) ago 

Skepticism is healthy. I voted trump but I don't agree with him on 1 very big important thing. Internet privacy. Trump doesn't give a shit about internet anonymity and I wish he did. We need a president who is very well informed on the internet and technology. Trump knows how to use social media and the internet to his advantage, but he believes for example that the NSA spying is acceptable. I simply don't agree with him here and it makes me worry about internet privacy in the future, but I like his other policies so he earned my vote

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[–] xeemee [S] 4 points 9 points (+13|-4) ago 

I voted trump but I don't agree with him on 1 very big important thing. Internet privacy.

not so sure how big of a concern that should be - the geeks that run the interwebs are, i think, very much aware of the problems and are working on solutions and those solutions, from what i can tell, are P2P encrypted applications that are censorship resistant, such as distributed search engines

granted, it would be a fuck of a lot more comforting if the Trump administration actually realized the importance of privacy, but i suspect it may not matter in the end

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[–] jerry 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

They say justice prevails or whatever, you're probably right. The fact that the internet even exists, its evidence of either a higher power via divine intervention or it is a testament to the genius of man. Probably latter, but former would be cool too. Perhaps Trump will come around though. Never know who could get the message to him. Im considering writing out a formal letter and sending it to him. Sometimes all it takes is someone to reach out to him.

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[–] littul_kitton 8 points 4 points (+12|-8) ago 

Trump doesn't give a shit about internet anonymity and I wish he did.

I doubt you actually care either, beyond a few empty platitudes about IP addresses and committees.

Identity is about information. A person's preferences constitute the bulk of the identifying information. The songs you listen to on websites, the videos, the search terms, the misspellings, the times of day you are active, the pattern of key-presses and mouse clicks, the web pages you visit, the number of bytes in the URL your sister emailed you, etc. That's your identity. They distinguish you from everybody else with fantastic accuracy. You are the statistics of what you do. And if you use your name in connection with them once, ever, they can track everything you do for life. There is no privacy, no anonymity, just deluded chimps hooting about the subject like they are using human words.

Just shut up and act like you live in a tiny Medieval village where everybody knows everything about you. Or use radical hand-rolled communication tools and extreme paranoia to avoid tracking. There is no middle ground. Play by digital Moscow rules and use perfect spycraft, or STFU.

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[–] jerry 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Meh, fair enough sassy

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[–] 7646869? 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

The songs you listen to on websites, the videos, the search terms, the misspellings

Only if they can be linked/connected. If I watch from various IP addresses and browser fingerprints, they know those songs have been watched, but can't tell it's the same person.

the pattern of key-presses and mouse clicks

browser.send_pings = false

extreme paranoia to avoid tracking

You're contradicting yourself here. The bulk of your post assumes tracking is real, and now you're calling it paranoid. It's not paranoid to think tracking exists. Paranoid means delusional.

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[–] Grunge 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Exactly, the previous generations have simply NOT held the people that they elect accountable for anything. Literally nothing at all. That's why we have to stay on guard and hold them accountable from now on. I believe Trump and I voted for him, but I will be watching closely and if he doesn't fulfill his promises it's up to the people to hold him accountable.

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[–] B3nd3r 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago 

the previous generations have simply NOT held the people that they elect accountable for anything.

What are you talking about! There wasn't a time and place where part of the people didn't try to do just that. Learn your history!

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[–] Lobotomy 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

Shadilay, brother!

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[–] whisky_cat 6 points 19 points (+25|-6) ago  (edited ago)

He was a pied piper candidate, allegedly by the DNC. An easy loser. But if you got back through Trump's history, he was a "Democrat" who considered running against Gore and Bush. The DNC rigged the media to position it as Clinton/Trump (sorry Sanders, next time have balls). Clinton/Trump was supposed to be an easy Clinton win (read as: establishment win).

Trump sees this ahead of time and just makes statements on what people want to hear. This is well documented and was variably a/b tested from the beginning. His team achieved this feat, since 98% of US regional electoral demographics agreed. Fuck big cities and their retarded manipulated population.

Trump is pro-Israel. Kennedey was not. So don't let your guard down. It'd be an easy trick to put anyone against Hillary, but it doesn't mean the wars are over, just some new bridges and shit.

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[–] Diamond_Deluge 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

"Trump sees this ahead of time and just makes statements on what people want to hear."

He has been talking about trade deals n shit since the 80s

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[–] whisky_cat 2 points 5 points (+7|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Yea, and he was right. Did I miss something? I voted for Trump on my research, which includes the 80s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FLo14GMYos

It's more relevant when someone finally runs for prez. Which is why I said ~"I did my own research".~ Edit I commented that elsewhere.

Let's try this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEPs17_AkTI

Yea the 80s. He saw it WAY ahead of time, because it was a long period of getting ripped off.

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[–] xeemee [S] 7 points 1 points (+8|-7) ago 

great comment - thanks for weighing in

i don't know that i buy an organic Trump victory though - i think it was all rigged from the beginning

even within the establishment you have different agendas and i think it was some arm of that establishment that flipped the vote - i'm just not sure what the hell went on

Trump is pro-Israel.

is he? i don't know what the fuck he is - as i said, he certainly has several ties to Israel, but could he just be 'keeping his enemies closer'? why are the Zionists working so hard to take him down if he's pro-Israel? i'm lost

Kennedey was not.

ha! he fucked up big-time when he tried to get AIPAC to register as a foreign agent, much less trying to push Ben-Gurion into allowing inspections of Dimona - he signed his own death certificate

thing is, with all the computing power they have, how is it even possible that this scenario wasn't predicted? this shit is chess, not checkers, and i think we're playing the wrong game

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[–] whisky_cat 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

Simultaneously reply. Trump totally ran a revolution we haven't seen since JFK.

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[–] whisky_cat 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I wish I had more data on Kennedy but that's difficult considering it's 50 years later. That said -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBAlxJVwMgc (eh skip the fucking s 3 days grace shit).

how is it even possible that this scenario wasn't predicted?

It's called controlled opposition. And it's exactly what happened. Sorry.

We must hold Trump to his word and try to end the wars, despite how difficult that will be.

The Zionists are not trying to take Trump down. They're running a fucking theatre. A very good one.

edit skip to 4 mins for relevant info. Also Trump acknowledged there were bombs on 9/11.

this shit is chess, not checkers, and i think we're playing the wrong game

wut... feel free to elaborate

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[–] xeemee [S] 9 points 1 points (+10|-9) ago 

No one is saying Trump can do no harm, ...

maybe you're not reading /v/all - every 4th post is about Trump and how wobderful he is

I'm willing to give him the god damned benefit of the doubt for at least until he's elected.

i'm not

given the history of U.S. politics, anyone who gives anyone the benefit of the doubt is utterly ignorant of 70+ years of history prior to Trump

the people of this country have been fucking sleeping for 70 years while the Bush's and the Clinton's and the Obama's and the Johnson's and the Regan's and all of the other neocons have robbed us of EVERYTHING WE FUCKING HAVE, from education to taxes to jobs to dignity to morals to family to health to everything else

but a self-serving orange haired Israeli loving billionaire steps into office because he says shit you like (just like every other president prior) and you're going to give him the benefit of the doubt? really?

i don't know what will happen and you're right insomuch as making judgments about Trump, to some extent, are premature - he may be the golden goose, granted, but all of history says that is not the case - all the history, all the wars, all those who really control DC (who are not elected) tells me that Trump is going to be just another big, fat neocon failure

i might be wrong, and i hope i am, but i'll gladly wager i'm not

if you want to go to sleep and fantasize that everything's gonna be ok, that's your prerogative, but those that actually take an interest in our country will know very well that they must remain vigilant and hold politicians accountable ... so that you are able to sleep well

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[–] Gorillion 2 points 12 points (+14|-2) ago  (edited ago)

You need to take a break. You're just looking for shit to be worried by at this point.

I want to give Trump his 100 days. I owe him that for destroying Hillary and Soros' long laid plans. Turning the cunty MSM inside out and upside down. Dealing a potential death-blow to the EU and Globalism. Allowing people to talk like people again. I don't care about this constant "muh controlled opposition" shit you're pushing. He was supposed to fucking lose. It's still up in the air whether the man's gonna get assassinated before or after taking office. Barry has turned into a complete fucking nigger since November. This is not part of some "plan". They're in full panic mode. If you want to feel frightened or disturbed so much, just sit quietly and imagine what would be happening right now if Trump had lost.

With that in mind, do you understand now why people are allowing themselves to be optimistic?

Chill out. Take a break. Come back in 105 days and tell us all how wrong we all were. You bitching all the way through ain't gonna change anything except your CCP.

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[–] Inque_Yutani 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

His own people have told supporters to hold the Administration's feet to the fire.

Let's give him a chance.

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[–] xeemee [S] 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago 

Let's give him a chance.

sure, no problem, but let's stay vigilant also - that's my point

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[–] Crensch 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Not a single person excited about Trump is saying that we should sit back and smoke something for the next 8 years while he does what he wants. Most are waiting for an indication that nothing has changed, which requires him to be in office for some non-trivial amount of time.

What you're writing is the narrative that it seems like others are being paid to plaster all over the internet by CTR-style outfits.

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[–] b0ard2death 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

But look at his personality. Now that the election is over that's as much as you need to know. He was never supposed to win, as everything since then shows. I believe he really wants to go down in history, as a great and honored figure. His ego is large, it's impossible to doubt that. My feeling is, that's exactly what is his best asset.

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[–] xeemee [S] 5 points 1 points (+6|-5) ago 

He was never supposed to win, ...

i don't buy that - i've been studying this shit just long enough to know that nothing -- nothing -- that happens in politics happens by accident

now is Trump an exception to th rule? i don't know, but history dictates he is not

you have to consider the computing power 'they' have - 'they' being the CIA, FBI, neocons, Zionists, etc., etc., etc. - there is no way, in my mind, they could have failed to predict this scenario and, if that's the case, then we're fucked as usual

maybe i'm wrong, and i hope and admit i may be, but if i am, it would be an oddity

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[–] ShinyVoater 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

The NYT's election night counter started with a virtual certainty of Clinton's victory. The sheer level of emotion this time around destroyed most polls because the election night behavior of the populace became unpredictable: people who publicly supported Hillary out of self preservation privately voted Trump, the Bernouts did vote Hillary at the level expected, etc. Garbage in, garbage out.

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[–] b0ard2death 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I get your point, while I don't fully subscribe it to it, let me say this: the media has always been on the winning sides of these things. It's why so many reporters over the ages are so revered. This time though...they weren't. The melt down of main stream media from the election results to today, and Hollywood, makes me believe something truly different just happened.

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[–] xeemee [S] 6 points 0 points (+6|-6) ago 

be happy to make you a sandwich - what would you like on it, besides KY jelly?

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[–] Ina_Pickle 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I think you aren't taking these posts in the spirit intended. They are semi-satirical. No one thinks Trump is the second coming of Jesus. That was Obama's crew circa 2008.

We're just having fun and blowing off some steam after 8 years of blatantly corrupt dumbasses in the highest offices.

And let's give credit where it's due - Trump is highly entertaining.

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[–] xeemee [S] 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

I think you aren't taking these posts in the spirit intended. They are semi-satirical.

no doubt, but i think there is a much more devoted element also and you can see that in some of the comments here - however i honestly expected this post to get far more d/v's than it has, so that says something too

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