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[–] greycloud 4 points 28 points (+32|-4) ago 

i just assume if its on the internet that it is compromised.

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[–] SaneGoatiSwear [S] 12 points 7 points (+19|-12) ago  (edited ago)

bro, the internet is 100% compromised. see nsa laying shit on underwater cables, tapping all phones, all webcams doing deals with microsoft and a dozen other companies such as pc hardware companies to install backdoors lol microsoft and nsa like 12 years open business deals

ffs

OF COURSE THE FUCKING DARPA NET IS COMPROMISED.

THE PURPOSE OF THE WARRANT CANARY IS TO INFORM US OF SOMETHING LITERALLY DESIGNED TO STOP US FROM EVER KNOWING ABOUT IT.

IT'S A KNOWLEDGE-DISSEMINATION-PROTECTION TOOL. AND IT JUST WORKED :( :(

NOTE, ATKO CHANGED THE FEATURED SUB 22 HOURS AGO.

EDIT: @PUTTITOUT BEING TOLD ABOUT 1 MONTH NORMAL PRESS TIME



PUTTITOUT WASON VOAT while this post is front page. https://voat.co/v/ideasforvoat/1539820/7496653?CONTEXT=2

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[–] 7497084? 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

I think you should avoid using all caps, makes you look like a crazy person. I myself sometimes feel the urge to allcaps some words when i feel emotional. Back on topic, i dont see any last edit date on the canary announcement. When was it posted? Looks like shit hit the fan in October.

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[–] CIAEatsShit 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

U know that VOAT is owned by NSA ( Thiel Palantir ), so it was compromised at birth, and is largely nothing more than a chatter feed to Thiel Palantir which is a pre-crime software package for NSA.

IMHO the purpose of VOAT is that its a tunable box that gives false-positives/false-negatives clue to compare the known world with the unknown, given NSA(Thiel) has universal control over Voat they can develop any thing here, test the response and then release into the wild.

MY old retired NSA friends always like to point out what the NSA looks for is a cackle of geese meeting or communicating, in one common location, electronic or physical. That put's up their antenna.

The lone-wolf is a threat, but an impossible threat to counter; The group, is easy to catch; Just watch the formation of groups and act.

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[–] CIAEatsShit 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

If you type it into a computer its known by everybody, there fixed for you, been this way since computers were invented.

If you want to keep a secret, never put it near a computer, or any electronic device.

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[–] sakuramboo 1 points 14 points (+15|-1) ago 

Amalek did say that he was being investigated. Maybe that was the one time he was truthful.

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[–] stillinit 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Source?

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[–] MrPim 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

It was a thread about a month ago.

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[–] sakuramboo 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

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[–] IfIDidIt 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Really? God dammit.

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[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 2 points 8 points (+10|-2) ago 

Were it not the time of year it is I would be much more concerned but the holidays have a tendency to cause people to not focus on things like updating the canary. Especially when this isn't your actual paying job. Right now it is just a thing to note. In a week or so it becomes pretty certain that something is up.

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[–] SaneGoatiSwear [S] 10 points 2 points (+12|-10) ago  (edited ago)

in a week or so

that's what the fucking month is FOR

I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT 20 OR SO HOURS AGO ATKO CAME ON AND UPDATED THE FEATURED SUB AND HAD A NOTIFICATION POSTED TO HIM ABOUT THE CANARY YESTERDAY.

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[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

I'd like to point out that the warrant canary does not state that it will be updated on any particular timeframe. If it isn't updated as of right this moment that is always indication that they may have received a warrant since the last update. Freak whenever you feel like it.

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[–] SaneGoatiSwear [S] 7 points 1 points (+8|-7) ago 

https://voat.co/v/ideasforvoat/1539820/7496653?CONTEXT=2

PUTTITOUT ON while this post is front page.

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[–] piratse 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

the warrant canary makes no sense. If the FBI, or whomever were to take over voat, you don't think they would also take over the warrant canary?

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[–] DiscontentedMajority 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It's not about taking over Voat.

The point of warrant canaries is that National security letters and secret warrants typically include verbiage that state that the recipient is not permitted to state that they have or have not received said document.

As such, once you receive one, you're not actually allowed by law to continue posting your warrant canary, as that would be stating you have not received it.

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[–] piratse 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

yeah, and what stops the government from updating it themselves? They've already taken over your site, you don't think they can't take over a canary update?

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[–] ginx2666 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Because US alphabet agencies give a fuck about legality of their action when it comes to blackmailing people, sure. Anyone that trusts warrant canaries to warn of possible compromising is a gullible fucking retard, that's what.

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[–] OcculusResurrectio 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

They haven't in any other instance. The warrant canary flat out works.

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[–] clamhurt_legbeard 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

A warrant canary is for gag orders, to get around a court saying you're not allowed to tell people you're under indictment.

It's not designed to counter actual infiltration by the government.

It works on the theory that a court can't order someone to lie, merely not tell a secret truth.

edit: this went to the wrong post, somehow...

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[–] piratse 3 points 2 points (+5|-3) ago 

you don't know that. You've personally looked into all warrant Canaries that exist and verified that the government never manipulated it?

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[–] SaneGoatiSwear [S] 9 points 2 points (+11|-9) ago  (edited ago)

this is how gags (corporate, gov't, personal etc), injunctions, superinjunctions, fisa orders, publication bans and ns letters* works:

they can stop you from telling a truth, like a part of a contract to not tell corporate info to a spouse.

but they can't force you to lie

with the admins regularly pressing the button within 30 days we KNOW by inferring that one of the above silencing-tools has been put in place because it stops being regularly pressed within the defined interval.

these silencing-tools can't force them to press a button saying they haven't gotten one when they have, that's a lie.

the ONLY PURPOSE OF THIS TOOL IS SO THAT WE THE WORLD KNOW THE FACT ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS LITERALLY DESIGNED TO KEEP THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO KNOW ABOUT IT FROM TELLING US.

it's a knowledge-dissemination-protection tool.

and it just sadly worked.

inb4 admins were busy/vacationing/omg something fucking else.

*ns letters May be already being used to force lies. warrant canaries cannot be considered useful FOR NS LETTERS ONLY, simply because they may be used to force lies.

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[–] clamhurt_legbeard 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

A warrant canary is for gag orders, to get around a court saying you're not allowed to tell people you're under indictment.

It's not designed to counter actual infiltration by the government.

It works on the theory that a court can't order someone to lie, merely not tell a secret truth.

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[–] IfIDidIt 1 points 19 points (+20|-1) ago 

It means it's time to begin scoping out new places and making backup plans so we aren't splintered into oblivion when the inevitable happens to this site/community. Would be premature to abandon now, but stupid to not have alternatives lined up. In my experience, this means the slow death is coming. We still have at bare minimum, six months to abandon ship successfully. More than likely we have three years before this place will be completely unrecognizable.

The formula is the same every time, you won't see it happening but some of the seeds have been down. Have you not noticed the sheer amount of subs that direct link to garbage sites now while simultaneously banning @derram bot that automatically makes archives?

What about that @henrycorp mod that mods like an SJW faggot in his little corner of voat, controlling leftist messages and ideology. Or how about @thunderlark who has multiple subs devoted to helping downvoat bots, alts, shills, and trolls bypass the 100 CCP requirement? If you read the content of some of his subs there, he regrets not naming it for Lord Spez (reddit admin) and in general is a place for those types to get easy CCP.

Another thing you'll notice or won't will be "celebrity" harassment. That's the power users of the site that you have likely seen around from time to time. You may or may not like what they bring to the table, but you've likely noticed them. Users like @LockeProposal @sanegoatiswear @kosherhivekicker etc. that tend to contribute will be harassed by a dedicated but small group. Probably those v/SBBH faggots if we're being totally honest. But they will be relentlessly and consistently attacked in an effort to force those types of users off the site altogether.

The people who do this sort of thing are a little predictable, but it is an unfortunately effective tactic to begin implementing control of a social media platform.

With the power users I mentioned, watch, basically everything they say/do will have odd downvoats and oftentimes vicious and cruel comments thrown their way pretty regularly.

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[–] derram 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago  (edited ago)

So far I've been banned from:

banned = ['BloomCounty', 'HistoricImages', 'BeNiceToPeople', 'goodnews', 'UltraWideWallpapers', 'altnews', 'DavidGXTUBE', 'Gifs2', 'celebrities', 'movies', 'Xsmall', 'dirtysmall']

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[–] SaneGoatiSwear [S] 11 points 4 points (+15|-11) ago 

*** IT AIN'T EFFECTIVE AGAINST ME, BRO. I MEAN I ENJOYED READING THIS COMMENT BUT ON THAT ONEFUCKING POINT YOU ARE WRONG AS FUCK BRO. WHEN THEY ATTEMPT, I GROW. I AM NO LONGER THE DARK GOAT.***

i am goatku.

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[–] niggerfaggot1488 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Hey guys anyone know why there has been a flower delivery truck across my street all week? The company name on the truck is "Flowers by Irene" can't find a yelp review. Anyways may mohammad bless you.

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[–] SaneGoatiSwear [S] 4 points -2 points (+2|-4) ago 

i have evolved.

no longer the dark goat voat needed. not wanted.

now.

I AM THE GOATKU ᕙ (⊙‿⊙)ᕗ and my power level is increasing

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[–] go1dfish 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

They really need to put an expected interval on that thing.

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[–] SaneGoatiSwear [S] 6 points -2 points (+4|-6) ago  (edited ago)

30 DAYS IS THE INTERNET-WIDE ACCEPTED NORM

also, i told putt about the 30 days IN the linked canary post

literally go to the like second or third last comment chain in the whole thread lol

#I AM THE GOATKU ᕙ (⊙‿⊙)ᕗ

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