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[–] 8_billion_eaters 1 points 34 points (+35|-1) ago 

I knew Marvel had jumped the shark when they introduced the Black Panther in the 70s. Even as a kid, I had to laugh at the idea that there was a small nation in Africa that was technologically advanced. That was still in the days when National Geographic was the only place you could see tits if you were too young to buy a Playboy.

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[–] Samchay6 0 points 26 points (+26|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I had to laugh at the idea that there was a small nation in Africa that was technologically advanced.

There was a Small nation in Africa that was technologically advanced - it was called Rhodesia. Then, in a fit of white guilt, they gave it back to the blacks. In two generations, Zimbabwe will be back in the stone age.

Facts are racist...

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[–] Pawn 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

actually Rhodesia, even being an "advanced" nation, didn't stop it from losing to guerrilla warfare. White minority rule, vs black majority rule. How can we stand for democracy if we dont let blacks rule themselves? So what if they take an advanced nation and turn it into nothing?

I want food supplies cut to africa, that'll put some fire under the african's to develop their continent before the chinese finish eating their lunch.

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[–] FuckYourSafespace 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Huh. TIL

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[–] vonbacon 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Holy shit I did not know that is there more information on this. I heard about how everything went to shit in africa when the boogeyman apartheid was thrown around. Didn't alot of former rhodesians move to Botswana and Zambia. As I know those to countries have really high standards of living and literacy compared to the rest of the continent.

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[–] Omnipresent 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Not to mention how OP they made him out to be.

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[–] Precipitate 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Well he kind of had to be seeing as how he's Marvel's Batman.

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[–] elitch2 3 points 7 points (+10|-3) ago 

Wakanda! Ha! There are some decent places in Africa. Kenya isn't too bad, even if you're white. I don't get all the black bashing on this site, it's about culture. They adore western culture in Kenya so they have a better, almost modern standard of living. Black people are not the problem, niggers are.

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[–] Rainy-Day-Dream 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago  (edited ago)

blacks have lower IQ and haven't produced a successful society, or nation, or even a language on their own despite being given thousands of years and every advantage, living on some of the most fertile, fauna rich, resource filled land on the face of the earth. To this day there are still tribes in africa that enslave and cannibalize each other

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[–] Kimvikiwi 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

It's not just about culture, or you can say that culture takes shape from the mind of the people.

Kenya had an empire when the rest of africa was eating each other.

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[–] Inque_Yutani 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Wait, didn't DC have an invisible city of hyper advanced gorillas in Africa, or was that just on one of the animated series?

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[–] Laserchalk 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

DC loves their talking gorillas. I've noticed there is a lot of them in their animated shows.

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[–] fricknmaniac 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Editorialized headline:

Marvel's all-SJW strategy leading to poor sales

First part of headline of actual article

While Marvel isn't exactly struggling in terms of sales

So yeah, they're pissing of retailers and fans (myself included) with a bazillion first issues each month and crossovers which get solicited as a certain number of issues and then get extended beyond the original number of solicited issues (Secret Wars and Civil War II were originally just 8 issues, but a 9th was released in both cases). (Gee, it's like looking into a time portal back into the late 90's when the comic book crash was looming.)

But the simple reality is that the facts don't support your narrative.

Marvel is still the largest comic book company in the world despite having fewer comics in the top 20 each month compared to DC. They still sell more issues than DC every month and combined with the fact that all of Marvel's titles are at least $3.99 cover price while DC has very few titles with a higher than $2.99 cover price. As a result, Marvel usually edges out DC in comics sold, but crushes them in total sales.

And the main reason is while none of Marvel's titles are consistently crushing it in sales, they're consistent on most of their back end and lower tier comics. While DC basically has Batman... and that's it.

Last month DC had half of the top 20 comics. 8 of those were comics starring Batman (Batman x2, Detective Comics x2, All-Star Batman, Batman Annual, and Justice League x2) and they occupied the 1, 2, 4, 7, 12, 13, 16, and 19. The other two comics were the two issues of Flash released last month and they were 17 and 20.

Basically DC dominates the top 20, Marvel dominates 20 through 150.

Random side note:

Spider-Man Deadpool was our bestselling Marvel ongoing for a while, mostly outselling Civil War and other events, but the over-saturation of Deadpool has caused it to finally calm down, dropping off a lot these last two or three months.

Yeah, or it might have something to do with the fact that after a great storyline in the first 5 issues, 4 of the last 7 issues have been fill-in issues by guest writers and artists, completely derailing the main storyline.

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[–] ginx2666 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I had OP tagged in AVE as "misleading faggot pushing agenda" for quite some time, so that checks out.

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[–] deejf [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I love that you think I am required to respond to every comment you deem important instantly, despite having a life. And the title is not BS, but you are, of course, free to dislike it.

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[–] degenerate7 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Did you read the parts where marvel overships issues by ~150%?

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[–] ginx2666 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

That only says that the supply is too high, not that the demand is too low.

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[–] deejf [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I brought my own interpretation to the headline. Big deal.

I'm sure that my interpretation of things is entirely unique and nobody else would ever agree with it...

Whoops:

http://kukuruyo.com/comic/gamergate-triggerhappy-marvel-comics/

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[–] fricknmaniac 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I simply disputed your false statement that their sales are lagging because of an SJW agenda. Their sales aren't lagging because of it because their sales aren't lagging at all.

And the reason is because they have a bazillion titles written by people who don't give a shit about SJWs, their agenda, or anything about them, they just care about putting out a comic with a good story that people will enjoy. While the SJW infestation does exist, it's usually overstated how pervasive it is.

Sorry, but Jane Foster Thor, Sam Wilson Captain America, and Amadeus Cho Hulk were not created with an SJW agenda in mind. All three characters were brought about by good writing and that's why they're still around, because good writing creates good comics. Writing with an agenda is inherently bad writing, because you care about the agenda first, not the story.

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[–] voteforfreedom 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

they all fucking themselves out of business to serve an agenda

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[–] WhiteSoIMustBeRacist 7 points 11 points (+18|-7) ago 

Funny the article says NOTHING about the poor sales being due to the "all-SJW strategy"

Typical voat bullshit.

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[–] im_the_dude_man 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

Yeah, this sort of behavior really annoys me. I would be very happy if this is true, but it is not and spreading lies helps no one and only serves to damage our side.

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[–] Crashmarik 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You do understand that it's never going to be stated plainly unless for some reason a right leaning outlet is doing the reporting ?

Girl Thor, Aunt May Milf, etc etc just push it. You want to see the effect in action

https://www.blackgate.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Analog-Science-Ficiton-June-2015-1000th-issue.jpg

There's the 1000th issue of Astounding/Analog they are telling the readers that the editors hate them. It's no surprise that they have a circulation of less than 20k these days.

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[–] WhiteSoIMustBeRacist 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

You do understand that it's never going to be stated plainly

LIke the fuck it won't. That gender and race changes get talked about all the fucking time discussed if it has impact on sales. Maybe you missed all the talk about the Ghostbusters failure this past summer?

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[–] TimeFreak 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

The power of voating with your wallet!

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[–] OcculusResurrectio 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Holy fucking shit. This is just too much. Disney is widely known as one of the most anti semitic companies around. This is straight up laughable to think that you and at least 6 others think Disney is controlled by the "Zionists." Disney is controlled by money and nothing else. Fun fact: 4 of the top 5 grossing movies this year were Disney films.

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[–] Porphyrogennetos 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Walt Disney was anti-semitic and this pissed the Jews off so when he died, they took control of his company just to spite him beyond the grave.

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[–] puppypaws98 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

As a long time comic book reader, (from when they were a quarter) this article doesn't go deep enough. Marvel is killing off or sidelining established characters that people like me, with disposable income, love to read about. Instead, they now have DIVERSITY. And the epitome of white bread American values for the past 60 years was turned into a Nazi loving Hydra agent because white guys are bad. I find myself buying fewer and fewer titles as things get changed for no good reason except the feels. How about instead of shitting on and replacing the characters that everyone loves, you make new and interesting ones to go along with what is there. Enriching the Marvel universe with more, instead of taking away because of a lack of imagination. As a woman, I'm all for a strong female character, but not just because some editor says "We need 20% more females!" It has to make sense and be a good story. Not just appeasement for the SJW crowd.

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[–] Tzitzimitl 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

funny how actual white people are slowly turning natsoc following captain america

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[–] JJNova 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Interviewing individual store owners and comic readers is not really a good measurement. After all, I don't read Marvel or DC books, but I do happen to know that in November Marvel was the top selling publisher.

As can be seen from the Diamond (distributor) sales information here - http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/content/top-ten-comic-books-november-2016-marvel-top

If you interview me, I would also have nothing but negative things to say about Marvel, but the majority of the industry seems to disagree. It's a small industry to begin with, estimates for consumers is only approximately 130,000 weekly buyers. Personally, I don't dislike them for their diversity, but more so because they do pandering instead of actual diversity. No strong, new, original characters, but instead they give us female Thor, black Spiderman, Mexican Nova, Muslim Cpt Marvel, etc.

If you're actually interested in keeping up with what's going on in comic books, or might want to get into reading them, there's a pretty wide variety of tastes discussed on /v/comicbooks

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[–] ElectroGypsy 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Get into reading them? Ain't that rich. That shits expensive nowadays.

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[–] Paranoidroid 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

They're all available digitally now. Nudge nudge, wink wink. For my own part, I can't stand the newer books. And not just because they went all PC and SJW-ey. The artwork is too clean and perfect, but lacks soul. Give me Kirby, Buscema, Romita. Fuck McFarlane and all the wannabe's.

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[–] JJNova 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Agree. I recently started buying them from http://dcbservice.com

Vastly discounted, with the catch being they ship in one package at the end of the month. :-(

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