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[–] E-werd 0 points 48 points (+48|-0) ago 

This stuff is always talked about in a derogatory way toward millenials, but the reality is that we were failed by our education and social systems. Only so much can be done in short order when you've known nothing but a low-responsibility fantasy world your whole life.

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[–] Empire_of_the_mind [S] 4 points 23 points (+27|-4) ago 

The main way in which Millennials failed was in buying everything they were told. Other generations were all subject to the same type of advice saying "do this, do that." They, as teenagers, had the good sense to question these role models offering advice and sought their own paths based on the information available to them. This is what the young do, and it replenishes society as they become adults. Millenials are disliked in large part because they did what they were told, have nothing to offer as a result, and whine about how they were misled. You stupid twats are supposed to seize personal power, not wait for it to be handed to you. Your education didn't fail you any more than it did others - you failed yourselves and no one stopped you.

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[–] AddictedToBadIdeas 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Part of that just has to do with how well our parents developed safe space for our childhood. They walled off successful people that didn't succeed the 'right' way and pushed shit like 'stranger danger'. And the people that rebelled had an easy trap that crippled their futures, marijuana and drug arrests. There is also the moving goal posts. It's much harder to just learn a new skill and get a job, because there are people all over the world fighting for that job.

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[–] 7056035 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago  (edited ago)

No, if it was you and your generation in our places, the exact same thing would have happened. Otherwise explain the mechanism in which millennials would somehow act innately different than previous generations? Biologically, there is no difference. It's 100% the environment.

Why are millenials less skilled? How about the fact that it is now so incredibly hard to even achieve an entry level position with any real prospects? There have been studies that show that millenials are actually not any lazier than previous generations.

I'll definitely agree with you that the social politics of my generation are totally fucked up. But as far as economics goes, it's 100% on the shoulders of your generation and the previous (assuming you're a gen X-er) for screwing us full stop.

Job prospects are shit. The ability to buy a decent house - almost non-existent. SocJus diversity practices instead of merit based practices. Heck I'd even say mating prospects are a lot harder for men in general, with how spoiled American women are (thankfully this doesn't apply to me). These are not things that are the fault of millennials. At all.

And for the record, no, I'm not a loser jobless NEET who lives in my parents basement. But I've had to work 500% harder than my parents did to get to the same place they were at when they were my age. It's bullshit.

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[–] GrandpaPepe 4 points 2 points (+6|-4) ago  (edited ago)

Failed by your education? Millennials will always be the least skilled in the populace. You start a shitty job in the beginning. You learn how to be good at your shitty job. You get promoted. Wish, wash, repeat. No one is going to hire a nonskilled fucking millennial if the minimum wage is $15. As someone who is 26, I'm glad that I found a profession where the skills required are scarce and in demand. It's like how teachers complain they're not getting paid well. Why don't you go to a profession that is difficult and requires skill? No one is forcing you to teach you dumb fucking liberal cunts.

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[–] Empire_of_the_mind [S] 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

The problem with hiring millenials is that they're frequently terrible employees. The reputation is well-established and is a problem for businesses who need to fill positions. The key markers of millenial employees are a huge sense of entitlement, poor follow-through, and a lack of willingness to put in the work to prove themselves before demanding things from their employer. They seem surprised when the workplace does not adapt to them.

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[–] ConceptualMan 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I agree. Millennials were sheltered. A lot of them never got to experience independence that leads to those skills. It's only going to get worse. Many parents I know now won't let their kids play out of eye sight. The majority of my learning took place during those unsupervised times when I had to fend for myself. I blame the whole stranger danger mentality for how Millennials act today. They never had to leave comfort of the nest as a youngster and yet we are surprised when we try to push them out as adults and they fail.

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[–] o_V_o 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

we were failed by our education and social systems

Oh, fuck you right in your faggot snowflake ass. Not only do I doubt you know the word, I doubt you understand the concept of autodidacticism. There's a reason I'm constantly calling you people retards... because that's what you are. You need everything spoon fed to you so you can regurgitate it on command without ever having to actually think about it.

There's a base level intelligence that's observable even when one is lacking an education that would allow them to express their ideas properly... and that's missing in ~90% of millennials I interact with. All you faggots do is mindlessly parrot ideas that you think make you look like an informed contrarian. That's your entire goal, to justify your bloated and obese egos because you totally ate up all that synthetic self-esteem that anyone willing to be honest would acknowledge as being undeserved (of course, you aren't exactly known for introspection... it really is amazing how a generation so self-conscious is so utterly bereft of self-awareness).

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[–] Empire_of_the_mind [S] 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

Right- and if they were any good at math they wouldn't have racked up that debt in the first place. Like many in generations before them who passed up on college because they simply could not afford it.

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[–] ThirteenthZodiac 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Eh. Debt is not an intrinsically bad thing.

I've got student loan payments, yeah. But my income after the payments is significantly higher than it was without my degrees, so in my book it was worth it.

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[–] ImBackBitches 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

But, but they had to go to the right school. Otherwise what would their friends think?

College is affordable if you're not an idiot. If you are an idiot that is willing to go into 200k of debt to go to college, you shouldn't be going to college.

http://www.teamnetworks.net/file/pic/photo/2016/08/c8128e18da17a3443913fb6a077f567a_1024.jpg

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[–] lexsird 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

This is what 'hugbox safe space' education systems run by Social Marxists have got us, our next generation is on par with Polack Jokes.

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[–] 7099204 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Not that many Marxists left in schools these days. There's a few, but they all bow down to the new dogma of Innate Identity.

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[–] mamwad 13 points -2 points (+11|-13) ago 

The self esteem movement that ruined the American education system was a direct product of consumer culture, not "social Marxism."

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[–] Gorillion 4 points 13 points (+17|-4) ago  (edited ago)

Found the "Social Marxist". How's that critical theory treatin' ya these days, faggot?

The funny thing about a social engineering tool like Cultural Marxism is that it's only effective if the target doesn't know it exists and that you're using it against them. The other funny thing is that once the playing field is leveled, people like you are getting your shit pushed in.

You were never winning. You were cheating. So now when both sides have access to the same tools, you fucking suck and are getting BTFO. All you have is the tired old fall-back of pretending Cultural Marxism isn't a thing and "It's all that capitalism guyz!!".

Loser faggot cuck pedo. Absolutely useless and weak with nothing to offer anybody. No wonder you threw in with the scum.

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[–] Empire_of_the_mind [S] 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

I agree with you here. Consumerism as a negative cultural force is massively underrated right now, mostly because people seem utterly incapable of describing a way to live without it. The victory of consumerism in the 21st century is almost total right now. This can change.

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[–] 7099175 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It's a combination of marketing culture and identity politics, IMO. Marxism might have had a hand in the creation of the latter at one point, but it's nothing but a buzzword for them now. The "Self-esteem movement" didn't have much to do with it, IMO.

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[–] 7054764 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I agree. Corporate used to pride itself with training. Now a days, some managers cant get the hours to schedule proper meetings.

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[–] Empire_of_the_mind [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Again, expecting it to be handed to you. Learning on the job is nothing new. You get the job, and you take every opportunity while at that job to learn, then you put those lessons into action, and acquire achievements and develop what are known as "skills." Then you take those and try to get a better job, where you will learn more, ad infinitum. It has never been the case in any great sense that you walk into a job and someone holds your hand and takes you through all the ropes. It really shouldn't be necessary - your job is not brain surgery. You have to train yourself, and the job provides access to learning materials that YOU have to take advantage of in whatever ways you can. It's all on you.

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[–] pall_mall 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Well I guess we need even more fucking hippie math. The US is fucking rampant with 'new, innovative and FUN!' ways to teach shit. School kind of fucking sucks and they keep trying to find ways around it. It takes work and practice. Neither of which are terribly enjoyable.

You just gotta do it. A lot. I have never learned a fucking thing, ever, where that wasn't the case. Makes me real fucking suspicious of all this bullshit thats come out in the last 20 years claiming to make it 'easier'.

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[–] Empire_of_the_mind [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Sure that's all garbage, but if you're an adult you probably can do basic arithmetic, which is really all that's needed to function effectively in society. "Innumeracy" describes a failure to comprehend arithmetic at a basic level. That's the shit you can do counting on your fingers if you must. What is indicated is that people have simply never applied the knowledge to real world situations and thus have no idea how to strategically use math to solve a problem. That's on ya'll.

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[–] pall_mall 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I agree. People really don't need to because they found other ways around it or aren't regularly faced with real world math problems that need solving. Shit comes with experience

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[–] Gorillion 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

“We really thought [U.S.] Millennials would do better than the general adult population, either compared to older coworkers in the U.S. or to the same age group in other countries,” says Madeline Goodman, an ETS researcher who worked on the study. “But they didn’t. In fact, their scores were abysmal.”

Millennials were told they were the future. That they were "tech savvy", more "culturally aware" etc.

Turns out when you're told a thing and don't have to prove it, you default to the lowest bar that will let you pass. With Common Core and the state of Colleges with their oversupply of valueless social psychology courses, that's an extremely low bar.

But good news to the millennial readers out there who aren't Hillary Cockchokers and dedicated cry babies, the human brain is extremely plastic. You can throw off all that SJW infused thought and behavior, learn new skills and modes of thought and become useful human beings. But just be ready to confront that 90% of what you've been taught by people who had a duty of care over you, was a liberal "progressive" lie designed to make you a self-selecting failure.

Because the linked article isn't reporting on a strange outcome that nobody saw coming, this was the planned outcome all along. To destroy an entire generation.

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[–] Empire_of_the_mind [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

At this juncture it's obvious that Generation X is dominant in terms of tech savvy skills, largely due to learning the technology of today at an earlier stage of development, which gave them a better fundamental understanding of how it actually functions. It's not a huge gap for an individual to make up, however, and there's really no excuse not to do it if that's what you want.

You say you were told and allowed to pass, so you went along with it. There's nothing wrong with that strategy for that time, but now the circumstances have changed. You are no longer passing without having to prove it. One would expect that you would register this, then figure out how to start proving it. The failure to do so for Millenials in general is what baffles the rest of us.

It's encouraging that you're showing signs of waking up with your bottom paragraphs. Spread that virus among your peers.

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[–] Captain_Hamerica 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Realistically even the tech savvy part is no longer true for the next generation. So much effort has been made to improve the UI and automate tasks in new applications/tech means you don't really have to have more than a "screen" deep understanding of how things work.

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[–] derram 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

https://archive.is/MPuWJ :

American Millennials are among the world's least skilled - Fortune

'With a master’s degree, for example, Americans scored higher in numeracy than peers in just three countries: Ireland, Poland, and Spain. '

'Even the best-educated Millennials stateside couldn’t compete with their counterparts in Japan, Finland, South Korea, Belgium, Sweden, or elsewhere. '

'American Millennials scored lower than their counterparts in every country that participated except Spain and Italy. (Japan is No. 1.) In numeracy, meaning the ability to apply basic math to everyday situations, Gen Yers in the U.S. ranked dead last. '

'Okay, but what about making smart use of technology, where Millennials are said to shine?'

'Sponsored by the OECD, the test was designed to measure the job skills of adults, aged 16 to 65, in 23 countries. '

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[–] thndrchunky 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Did anyone else go to the site and go through some of the sample problems they have? I find it very hard to believe that an individual with a masters degree would not be able to figure those problems out; quickly if not instantly. I have GED level education with only 8 years work related experience and those sample problems were a cake walk.

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[–] Empire_of_the_mind [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Tells you how stupid people with a masters degree are.

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[–] ShinyVoater 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

God the difficulty ratings of those problems were appalling! All the numeracy items were level 3 and, somehow that first literacy item was as well! I can't even.

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[–] GrandpaPepe 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Having a masters degree doesn't give you actual experience. I have acquaintances that have masters degrees, but are in major debt. And they live with their parents. They are snotty, yet works two minimum wage jobs. Degrees doesn't mean anything. I have one and thought it was just like high school, but you have to pay for it. You don't need even need a high school education. You only need the enthusiastic attitude to learn and the attitude to work hard. Be around smart people and you will end up being successful eventually.

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