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[–] bikergang_accountant 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

More like /v/distrustthekikes.

There is this very old political meme of showing valid evidence suggesting why "something must be done", and then instead inserting your suggestion that may not necessarily be the thing done.

Yes, Isreal is dishonest to us. Yes, the relationship is not mutually beneficial. Yes they throw out unsubstanciatable accusations to anyone who offends them. Have we tried not calling them an ally? Instead of "/v/gassingthekikes."

Maybe if we were reasonable, people would listen to us and recognize holding Isreal in contempt is not anti-semitic but rational. By being the rational ones people might see that.

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[–] badbear 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Thanks for being a voice of reason. I'm all for stopping our funding of Israel, just like I'd prefer if we didn't fund or get involved in any foreign conflicts. Demonizing and calling for the slaughter of entire groups of people is obviously crazy. "Gas the kikes" is so intentionally incendiary that I basically assume that people say it to troll others.

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[–] BlackLivesMatter111 [S] 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

You can "not call them an ally" all you want, but the harsh reality is that they are heavily embedded in all of our institutions. Between AIPAC, our educational and religious instutions, our media and the federal reserve, it's not nearly enough to simply distrust Jews and/or Israel. It doesn't matter if we don't like or support Israel because they have already infiltrated nearly every aspect of American life. Short of removing these people by force, I'm not sure how you're going to eliminate Israeli/Jewish interests from our society.

Do I think we'll ever /v/gasthekikes? No. And I don't believe Hitler ever did, either. I'm not going to get into a Holocaust debate with you unless you'd really like to have that debate, but suffice to say that I don't believe the Holocaust happened the way we are told it happened. So gassing 6 million is a meme, more than anything. However, I'd really like them all to be deported to their safe space called "Israel" behind their 30ft walls and away from my country and away from Europe.

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[–] bikergang_accountant ago  (edited ago)

Ok, let's address each of the issues directly. Evidence of a disadvantageous circumstance we are in is evidence that we should change that particular circumstance. The call to action of each one should related directly to that one thing.

Don't like Israelis in the Federal Reserve. End the Federal Reserve. The issue is structure and not whether someone is gassed or not. I must not be jewish or goyim but something else because I can say goyim are very stupid about structure and how they produce incentives (I'm pure blood Scandinavian). There are deeper problems than the jews that have allowed this to come into place.

Keep in mind that we have a very similar circumstance with many other people including Saudi and Islam in general. The problem isn't the perpetrator, it's us.

We can't continue creating structures like the federal reserve without asking "from a security standpoint, what are the weaknesses?" We need to design our institutions like we would computer software with an equal amount of criticism before role out. Do we do that? No. We have problems and intentions and we act on them without thinking.

Did the people who initiated the concept of the federal reserve and devised it's control structure to be as secure as software? No. They were idiots when it came to system design. Did the founding fathers do that when they devised the processes for our democracy? No. The have no formal system design training. They were idiots compared to their problem. If you don't want corruption you have to not provide a structure that wants it.

There will always be someone to gas until you fix our institutions at the mechanical level, and to do it you are going to have to be smarter than the people who failed the first time when they put them in. I can tell you, you are not being smarter than them right now.

There will always be someone to gas as long as there are power structures we've instituted that are more powerful than ourselves and unrenigable whose design are thought up by liberal arts majors. It just cannot work well, and people who are smarter than you are going to take advantage of that.

PS: Yes I know about the theories that Hitler did not gas the kikes, and yes those theories have some validity. No one can deny that Hitler killed people and resulted in the deaths of many whites by the way. No one can also deny that Hitler was too stupid and incompetent to institute any lasting institution that wouldn't have problems or deny that he had absolutely no regard for your or anyone else's freedom. And if even Hitler did not gas the kikes than why would you advocate for it? Are you worse than Hitler?