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[–] Sciency 3 points 21 points (+24|-3) ago 

Sgt Al Blackman

You blind sheep will probably take this at face value. Do any of you even know this case? It's from 2011, where a British national excicuted an already wounded combatant, who was believed to be physically incapable of communicating surrender. Blackman ordered 2 other British marines to move the conbatant out of friendly surveillance, ordered them to stop giving him first aid, then shot him in the chest with a 9mm pistol. Sgt Al Blackman was molded into a cold blooded murderer, like so many of our friends and family. But the fact remains, he had no reason to kill a man that was no longer a threat.

The fact that a bunch of warhawk idiots sign a US based "petition" does not change the fact that this guy was alread convicted by british militarty court martial a full three years ago, violated the Geneva convention, murdered a hostage in cold blood.

If you still support this dude being free, Im sorry but you are the very problem that keeps sending these young men to fight wars that put them in impossible decisions. Its not fair to anyone. We cant keep letting this BS happen.

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[–] ginx2666 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

Whether people sign petition or not doesn't matter - online petitions don't accomplish shit.

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[–] Sciency 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Don't even get me started on petitions, let alone change.org. I could write 10 minutes of standup about that crap.

Best case nothing happens, worse case you are now on public record against powerful people. I just think its best to vote, and donate money to good people in politics if you really wanna make some changes.

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[–] 6685573? 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

A murder conviction & lifetime sentence is still excessive given the circumstances. A manslaughter conviction and a few years in prison would have been much more appropriate.

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[–] shakin_my_head 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You are missing the point turbo. Sure the Marine broke the rules but it wasn't like the dead guy was innocent. It seems as though he was doing his best to eliminate those Marines. A life sentence seems a bit extreme.

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[–] ShinyVoater 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

There are certain rules of war that need to be followed. It doesn't matter if somebody single-handedly took out your entire company; you still have to honor his surrender(similarly, a company that manages to surrender to one man is expected to abide by it). Holding him up 100% to rules the enemy won't follow is a bit questionable, though: if there was still active combat, I'd let it slide, personally. Even if it was over, I'd still exercise some leniency(unless he shot a man who couldn't move and could reasonably be saved - that makes for a cold-blooded fuck).

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[–] Sciency 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The hostile was transported on no orders, and then shot. Call it what you want, but "prisoner" isnt a good fit:

a person who is confined in prison or kept in custody, especially as the result of legal process.

POW is closer, but even that definition seems to imply they are detained for some period of time

a person who is captured and held by an enemy during war, especially a member of the armed forces.

Either way, its symantics. The geneva convention was violated, is my core point. Not a fan of unnessesary death either.

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[–] sleazyridr 8 points 4 points (+12|-8) ago 

A soldier, in a war zone, killing an enemy combatant, should not be punished.

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[–] Fred 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

The incident in question

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Helmand_Province_incident

The incident took place in Helmand Province during Operation Herrick 14, part of the British effort in the War in Afghanistan. Blackman, of 42 Commando, Royal Marines, was part of a Marine patrol that came across an Afghan fighter in a field wounded by Apache Helicopter gunfire. Blackman ordered the Afghan to be moved out of sight of the British Persistent Ground Surveillance System, a camera on a balloon above British Forward Operating Base Shazad, Helmand, covering the area Blackman's patrol had been sent to. Video evidence played at the Marines' subsequent trial shows some of the patrol dragging the man across the field and then kicking him. Blackman ordered Marine B and C to stop administering first aid to the insurgent and eventually shot the man in the chest with a 9 mm pistol, saying: "Shuffle off this mortal coil, you cunt. It's nothing you wouldn't do to us." He then added: "I just broke the Geneva Convention."

While I would agree that he shouldn't be punished for killing an enemy in the course of combat, what happened in that incident was not combat.

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[–] revofire 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

He was down, we're not animals. We show mercy to those we have power over, thanks.

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[–] Sciency 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

I bet you would change you tune if the warzone wss in your home town. Whats that, you're on your property defending your land? Sorry, the bad guys just landed on your street and you look like every other asshole dressed in tacticool cammo. Guess what? You are an enemy combantant in that scenario, and the entire army just got word that the geneva convention has been overturned, ya know, just because.

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[–] great_regret 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Sandniggers are not people. They certainly don't view the kuffar as such.

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[–] hwong 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Why?

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[–] shakin_my_head 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Why?

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[–] Plant_Boy 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

It's a Blackman who is being persecuted! Where's the BLM movement now???

v/BlackLingerieMatters

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[–] Mediocrity 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

They aren't. But that's just the Conventions. A soldier in combat is also subject to his host nation's laws as well. If England has a rule against shooting prisoners for giggles, then there would be that. And most 1st and 2nd world nations do have such laws.

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[–] eagleshigh 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

Petitions are retarded.

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[–] Hey_Sunshine 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Yeah, especially this one because even if the x number of signatures is reached, in the end I doubt it will change the result.